3 1/2 weeks later... battery is dead.

[Suncross]

what do I have to buy to measure these things?

Is it bad to start the bike using the tender? I mean this is my main transportation. I have shown this thing some serious TLC and now it won't even start.

[geezer]

its caled a multi meter you can get one cheap at the partstore

[alantf]

Originally Posted by Suncross

what do I have to buy to measure these things?

Is it bad to start the bike using the tender? I mean this is my main transportation. I have shown this thing some serious TLC and now it won't even start.

You haven't said............Did you inadvertantly turn the key all the way round, to the "P" position instead of "Lock"? :??:

[Suncross]

Originally Posted by alantf

You haven't said............Did you inadvertantly turn the key all the way round, to the "P" position instead of "Lock"? :??:

I don't think i've ever done that. No.

Still can't find out whether or not it's safe to start the bike with a tender. I can't seem to find any place that says it's bad, so I am going to go ahead and use it to start it and see if it works.

[geezer]

yeah go ahead and start on the tender

[Water Warrior 2]

The tender itself will not provide near enough power to start the bike. Use the tender to charge the battery and then start the bike.

[Water Warrior 2]

Originally Posted by geezer

yeah go ahead and start on the tender

Not gonna happen.

[geezer]

i figured he was asking if he could use the batt tender to supplement the batts power. my bad

[mrlmd1]

Did you read my previous post?

"You should let the charger charge up the battery, and use that to start it, not use that charger to try and start the bike. The current output is noway near the 80 amps or so the charger draws and you may blow or burn out some of those little chargers trying to put that much load on it."

Did you read WW's posts?

Why is this so hard to understand? How many ways do you have to be told the same thing? You are waiting for the answer you want to hear, so do what you want. You may burn out your charger because of the current draw on it is way in excess of what it can put out, and you may also burn it out or damage it from the current and voltage the bike's alternator puts out at higher than idle speed.

I have a couple of questions for you:

You said the battery was totally dead. I don't know what that means and how you reached that conclusion.
Did you have any lights come on when you turned the key to ON? Did you look? Or just did nothing happen when you hit the starter button after turning the key on? Did you measure the battery voltage at the battery terminals or from that plug hanging down underneath with a meter to see what the voltage was?
(by the way, the protected socket is positive, the bare open one is negative).
You are absolutely sure you didn't inadvertently leave the key turned off all the way to the left in PARK?

You had the RUN/KILL switch in the RUN position with the key ON when you hit the start button?
You pulled in the clutch when you went to start the bike?
If either of those are not right, the starter will not turn over.

How long are you leaving the charger/tender attached to the battery when you try and start the bike with it?
Did you ever charge up the battery fully with the charger after this episode? Like leave it connected 6 hrs or so?
Have you checked your battery connections for dirt, corrosion, or to make sure they are tight? You may just have a loose connection at the battery as your problem.

Did you get a multitester/voltmeter yet? You must measure your battery voltage at rest, after being on the charger for a number of hours to make sure it's fully charged, and with the bike running 2500+rpm to get some information so we can help you. Again. read my previous post.
Or just carry your charger with you at all times and get a 100' extension cord so you can try and start your bike to get home.

[Gz Rider]

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