Tricky Shifter

[Dark Jackal]

hello everyone

i'm just back from a ride on my GZ and i can finally stand that sometime the shifter works pretty well, with smooth shifting, a pleasure to deal with, and sometimes it act a little weird...

tonight i noticed that the shifter is really much harder, every gear, with second and first at the top of hardiness... it's like some days it run smooth and someday it's harder to shift, seem that if the bike is cold or not it doesn't make a difference...

someone have something to suggest?

thank you very much

[Moedad]

Do you have fresh synthetic oil in it?

[Easy Rider]

Originally Posted by Dark Jackal

someone have something to suggest?

I know you may not believe this answer but it IS true.......and even if you don't buy it right now, with a few years of riding under your belt, you will learn to believe:

The BIKE does the same thing every day. It is the RIDER that is different from day to day......or even from one hour to the next !! :shocked:

Tiny,un-noticeable differences in technique and timing can make things feel and sound WAY different. There have been a few times in my 40+ years of riding that "things" felt so funny when I got on the bike that I just parked it for the day.

[Water Warrior 2]

My first thought was an oil change too. But the idea of the rider being different on some days also holds some truth too. Do you always wear the same shoes or boots when riding ? Even tight pants will limit your leg and ankle flexibility to some degree. Also think about whether you are always wearing gloves or not. Could be limited clutch pull due to not so great gloves or cold hand with no gloves. Riding experience also plays a large part in proper operation overall.

[Dark Jackal]

Originally Posted by Moedad

Do you have fresh synthetic oil in it?

yep i think so it was changed at 3300 km, now it have 4300 so far so i think that shouldn't be the issue

[quote=Easy Rider]

Originally Posted by "Dark Jackal":2zlch2ud

someone have something to suggest?

I know you may not believe this answer but it IS true.......and even if you don't buy it right now, with a few years of riding under your belt, you will learn to believe:

The BIKE does the same thing every day. It is the RIDER that is different from day to day......or even from one hour to the next !! :shocked:

Tiny,un-noticeable differences in technique and timing can make things feel and sound WAY different. There have been a few times in my 40+ years of riding that "things" felt so funny when I got on the bike that I just parked it for the day.[/quote:2zlch2ud]

Originally Posted by Water Warrior

My first thought was an oil change too. But the idea of the rider being different on some days also holds some truth too. Do you always wear the same shoes or boots when riding ? Even tight pants will limit your leg and ankle flexibility to some degree. Also think about whether you are always wearing gloves or not. Could be limited clutch pull due to not so great gloves or cold hand with no gloves. Riding experience also plays a large part in proper operation overall.

now that i think of it, i usually always ride with Harley Davidson boots... yesterday i rode with CULT shoes.... maybe could be that? i always ride with my gloves on all the time... for the pants, wear large ones always, so i think i can exclude that also...

i'll try to ride with HD boots next tie and see, anyway i found that it's harder shift with sport shoes...

anyway i'll bring my GZ to SUZUKI to check the front brake (the bike is still in warranty) so it will no harm checking the shifter just to be sure that everything work as it should

[patrick_777]

I'm going to go ahead and concur with the others. This sounds like a boot issue.

[alantf]

I find that if I'm riding in trainers I often miss the double click from first to second, & find that I've just gone into neutral.

[roncg41677]

I've noticed what Dark is talking about before too. It's not so much like the lever is physically harder to push down, but like there's actual mechanical resistance. I'm not sure if that's what you're experiencing. I've noticed in different shoes it's harder, but not like there's a mechanical issue. Not pulling the clutch in enough makes perfect sense though. Had never thought about that.

[adrianinflorida]

One more conccurence for the shoes. I notice a huge difference in the feel of the shifter, it's accuracy, etc, depending on the shoes I'm wearing.

[Dark Jackal]

Originally Posted by roncg41677

I've noticed what Dark is talking about before too. It's not so much like the lever is physically harder to push down, but like there's actual mechanical resistance. I'm not sure if that's what you're experiencing. I've noticed in different shoes it's harder, but not like there's a mechanical issue. Not pulling the clutch in enough makes perfect sense though. Had never thought about that.

yep i still have to find out if it's a problem with the bike or not.... i'm going to find it out tomorrow cuz i'm going to service the bike for the front brake, i'll let you know

Originally Posted by adrianinflorida

One more conccurence for the shoes. I notice a huge difference in the feel of the shifter, it's accuracy, etc, depending on the shoes I'm wearing.

yes that's very true, as i said i rode with sport shoes one or 2 times and i found that it's much harder and less natural to shift with them.... tomorrow i'll bring my GZ wearing HD boots and see if it's a boot issue or not...

thank you all very much anyway for the help ^^