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Old 07-09-2007, 05:35 PM   #1
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Want your GZ to ride better?

For about the last 6 months I have been using Nitrogen fill for all my vehicle tires instead of air. Here's the scoop... Nitrogen doesn't bleed down so you only have to check your tire pressure every three months. To date (6 months) no pressure change. Nitrogen also displace all the water vapor in the tire, so 99% of your 65 mph bounce is gone. And all the inherant little bike vibes at speed are alot less. Nitrogen is not an oxidizer, so it won't rot your tires from the inside. So, between lower operating temps, most of the ride vibrations gone, and a supposedly longer tire life all looks pretty good to me. And when your tires run cooler you get better gas mileage.(?)

Here's the real gem. The bike rides like it's on air. I had to look down to make sure the tire was on the pavement. I couldn't believe how much better the ride is. I'm not one to rave, but for $10 a tire, nitrogen is for me. And you get a cool green valve cap.
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Old 07-09-2007, 06:24 PM   #2
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My dad runs nitrogen in all his vehicles. He cant say enough about it, loves it. I was thinking about running it in my bike tires too, just keep forgetting to do it.
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Old 07-09-2007, 09:06 PM   #3
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Nitrogen also displace all the water vapor in the tire, so 99% of your 65 mph bounce is gone.
OK, I give up. What is a "65 mph bounce" and why does water vapor have anything to do with it?? :??:
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Old 07-09-2007, 11:22 PM   #4
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OK, I give up. What is a "65 mph bounce" and why does water vapor have anything to do with it?? :??:
HEAR! HEAR!

What bounce? :??:
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LOL Nearly 80% of the air we breathe and compress to put in our tires is...... you guessed it! Nitrogen! I find it very difficult to believe that putting pure nitrogen in our tires will make much if any difference. The only benefit I could possibly see to this is the fact that there should be little if any water dissolved in the nitrogen. But wait we have inner tubes so the moisture in the air in our tires couldn't corrode our wheels from the inside. I"m not trying to crack on anyone, If you like it then by all means fill ur tires with N2. I just don't understand how it could make a difference by removing moisture and replacing the other 20% with more nitrogen.



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Old 07-10-2007, 06:54 PM   #6
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I just don't understand how it could make a difference by removing moisture and replacing the other 20% with more nitrogen.
It's the placebo effect!
If you THINK it will do wonderous things, then it WILL.
It does stop the "leak down" but that usually isn't a problem with tubes anyway.
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Old 07-10-2007, 08:26 PM   #7
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Look, they tell me that the minute amount of water vapor in the compressed air can cause a light bounce, usually at 55 to 65 mph. Mine had one. After nitro it's gone. I'm sure this be avoided by draining the water trap on every compressor everywhere you put in air, but the nitrogen is easier. You are missing out on a highly improved ride for cheap. For $20 I believe in the value of this WAY over the value of synthetic oil.
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Seriously, you guys need to chill a bit ... and before knocking him, do some googling...

For years, over the road truckers, auto racers and the U.S. military have been filling tires on their vehicles with pure nitrogen. Here's why. In a tire filled with compressed air, the oxygen molecules tend to "migrate" through the wall of the tire over time. That's why, when you open the garage to check on your aunt's dust-covered 1980 Pontiac the tires are often flat. But nitrogen molecules migrate 3 to 4 times more slowly than oxygen, so tires stay properly inflated longer. There are other benefits. Nitrogen retains less heat than oxygen and therefore allows tires to run cooler.

While nitrogen is dry and benign and will not combine chemically with other materials (the metal in tire rims, for instance), compressed air contains trace amounts of water and the oxygen tends to combine with other materials, causing rust and corrosion. If you were to see the inner face (the part enclosing and sealing the inside of the tire) of some fancy aluminum wheels you would be surprised at how corroded they become due to oxidation.

Tour de France bicyclists fill their tires with nitrogen. So do NASCAR, Indy and Formula One racing teams, over-the-road truckers, some fire departments and the U.S. military.
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Look, they tell me that the minute amount of water vapor in the compressed air can cause a light bounce, usually at 55 to 65 mph. Mine had one. After nitro it's gone.
Just who exactly is "they"?
Do you believe everyting "they" tell you?
Do you think there is a minute possibility that the tire PRESSURE is different now than it was before?

I found I had a bounce around 45 after I put on the 16T sprocket. I eliminated it by upping the rear pre-loads one notch. A change in tire pressure may have done the same thing. I've still got the same "wet" air I had before and the bounce has not come back in several hundred miles of riding.......at any speed.
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Old 07-11-2007, 10:55 PM   #10
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I always have wet air in Tallahassee FL.
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