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Old 08-07-2012, 01:56 PM   #71
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Sounds great. You must be a far better mechanic than I will ever be.
I doubt it.
But, I do learn quickly when others help.
And I learned something when ordering the parts I need. With bolts, the length of the bolt is
part of the part number! Look at the last three digits of the bolt part number,
ignore the last digit. The two digits BEFORE the last are the length. Or so they say. I'll verify that when I reassemble.
The parts won't be in until the end of the week.
Surprise surprise, a new bit of info to file away. Thanks for mentioning it. That would be the length in millimeters of course ?????



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Old 08-07-2012, 11:33 PM   #72
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Sounds great. You must be a far better mechanic than I will ever be.
I doubt it.
But, I do learn quickly when others help.
And I learned something when ordering the parts I need. With bolts, the length of the bolt is
part of the part number! Look at the last three digits of the bolt part number,
ignore the last digit. The two digits BEFORE the last are the length. Or so they say. I'll verify that when I reassemble.
The parts won't be in until the end of the week.
Surprise surprise, a new bit of info to file away. Thanks for mentioning it. That would be the length in millimeters of course ?????[/quote:1vld5pnb]

Yep, I think. I'm still not 'up' on Metric, but MM sounds right. And, I noticed that bolts longer than two digits in length are specified as to length in the service manual. Noticed one of the bolts I had to remove had the length (120) in parenthesis.
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Old 08-08-2012, 12:24 AM   #73
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120 mm looks close to 4.7 inches on my little ruler.



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Old 08-08-2012, 12:29 AM   #74
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Just tried this. Google "Metric conversion charts". Everything you always wanted to know and a bucket load of stuff you would rather forget.
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Old 08-08-2012, 05:02 AM   #75
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Afraid you'll have to learn metric. EVERYTHING on the GZ is metric. Lengths, volumes, weights. The whole caboodle. Afraid that America seems to be the only place in the world that hasn't converted. Now I'm used to it, it seems a lot easier. I remember, years ago, as well as bolt length there was the pitch to consider. BA, BSF, BSW, AF, etc, etc, etc. Now, with metric, the pitch is the same for any given diameter, so all I need in my nut & bolt box is a selection of lengths, and I know they're gonna fit. :2tup:
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Old 08-09-2012, 12:09 AM   #76
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Just tried this. Google "Metric conversion charts". Everything you always wanted to know and a bucket load of stuff you would rather forget.

Well, I never 'really' wanted to learn anything about Metric,
but as the days pass it seems that I NEED to learn about it!
Thanks, I'll try that out.
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Old 08-09-2012, 12:26 AM   #77
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Afraid you'll have to learn metric. EVERYTHING on the GZ is metric. Lengths, volumes, weights. The whole caboodle. Afraid that America seems to be the only place in the world that hasn't converted. Now I'm used to it, it seems a lot easier. I remember, years ago, as well as bolt length there was the pitch to consider. BA, BSF, BSW, AF, etc, etc, etc. Now, with metric, the pitch is the same for any given diameter, so all I need in my nut & bolt box is a selection of lengths, and I know they're gonna fit. :2tup:
I should have learned a long time ago. One car is German, the other a newer American that uses almost all Metric. I was in the service before they started measuring distances
in kilometers, we still used feet, yards, miles, etc.
But, there is more to a bolt than just length; there is strength (torque), head diameter, shaft diameter, etc. I will admit that not having to worry about the thread pitch saves a lot
of time and hassle. Few things are more frustrating when looking in my 'junk' bin
for a nut or bolt I need than finding one that would fit except for the pitch!
Damn, guess I'll be going back to school in my sixties, trying to learn Metric!

One other thing to mention about the GZ. When I ordered the parts I tried to get some
'Suzuki Bond 1215'. Not only didn't they have it, they claimed they never heard of it!
They told me to use 'Tri Bond', which I never heard of. I think I'll use Permatex Hylomar.
They've always given me a good product.
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Just tried this. Google "Metric conversion charts". Everything you always wanted to know and a bucket load of stuff you would rather forget.

Well, I never 'really' wanted to learn anything about Metric,
but as the days pass it seems that I NEED to learn about it!
Thanks, I'll try that out.
Even my hardcore "american Iron" Harley is a mixed bag of SAE, and Metric fasteners. Harley likes to remove all the "metric" designations from the heads of bolts to fool old skool Harley owners into thinking "my Harley is 100% American" .
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Just tried this. Google "Metric conversion charts". Everything you always wanted to know and a bucket load of stuff you would rather forget.

Well, I never 'really' wanted to learn anything about Metric,
but as the days pass it seems that I NEED to learn about it!
Thanks, I'll try that out.
Even my hardcore "american Iron" Harley is a mixed bag of SAE, and Metric fasteners. Harley likes to remove all the "metric" designations from the heads of bolts to fool old skool Harley owners into thinking "my Harley is 100% American" .[/quote:19q9loxe]

Sheesh! I've heard that they are making some of them in India these days.
But as far as the mixed bag of Metric and SAE, my last two cars (Caddy and Chrysler) have used both. Still waiting for parts, and I'm supposed to help two of my kids this weekend. Oh well,
we're supposed to have bad weather this weekend anyway so I guess there is no rush.
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in america the only thing not metric is the mine of the people
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