Multi-problemed bike (electrical + ???) - Page 6

ImaginativeFig · 01-28-2014, 10:25 PM

Yeah I went to O'Reilly's, Napa, Autozone, and Sears, and called Advance on Sunday, they all said they had nothing that would work (except for the guy at Autozone who tried to convince me that I could use a similar bolt with a different pitch, it'd be fine, I'd just have to use a bit of force and it would make new threads

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I ordered the part at ActionSports today, but they said it would take 5 biz days for it to show up (so... next Wednesday! That sucks!)
Tomorrow I'm gunna check out Fastenal and Ace Bolt and Screw, since they're bolt specialists...

grasshopper · 01-28-2014, 10:39 PM

sorry your having such a hard time finding a bolt. I found good help at the lowes for a bolt ,temporary fix. you know just to test things out while you wait for your ordered bolt to come in. I have used them on some of my dirt bikes to get by until my other bolt came in the mail. I would not try to force a bolt in there. good luck.

Water Warrior 2 · 01-29-2014, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ImaginativeFig

except for the guy at Autozone who tried to convince me that I could use a similar bolt with a different pitch, it'd be fine, I'd just have to use a bit of force and it would make new threads

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NEVER NEVER NEVER. A different pitch will probably work once if the bolt doesn't chew all the threads out. The next oil change will likely be the end of the threads and you are royally hooped. The different pitch to the thread is a Japanese Standard and should not be mucked with. Somebody needs a smack.

ImaginativeFig · 01-29-2014, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Water Warrior 2

NEVER NEVER NEVER. A different pitch will probably work once if the bolt doesn't chew all the threads out. The next oil change will likely be the end of the threads and you are royally hooped. The different pitch to the thread is a Japanese Standard and should not be mucked with. Somebody needs a smack.

Riiiiight? He just lost a lot of credibility... interesting guy, fun to talk to, I just wouldn't let him touch my bike...

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Originally Posted by grasshopper

I found good help at the lowes for a bolt ,temporary fix. you know just to test things out while you wait for your ordered bolt to come in.

Thing about temporary bolts is that swapping them out for the real deal would essentially require another oil change, right? I mean, it's a drain bolt, once you take it out, oil starts draining, yeah?

ImaginativeFig · 01-29-2014, 01:14 AM

Here's a little video I shot for you guys on Sunday of Coot and his oil. I just finished editing it to my satisfaction, so here you go

grasshopper · 01-29-2014, 06:13 AM

yeah your right about the oil change. unless you do what I have done and do a fast bolt swap. may only lose a cup or less of oil at the most, (engine cold) and you can just top that off. Nice video by the way. the bolt didn't look to bad from what I could see. if the threads are still good I would just use it. looks like you could still get a box-end wrench on it. I like the colored socket set. there is nothing like having the right tools for the job.

blaine · 01-29-2014, 08:14 AM

I agree the bolt don't look to bad.I'd reuse it for now.

Goose51683 · 01-29-2014, 10:07 AM

Little tip I've used for other "quick" bolt swaps. Stick a vacuum hose on the hole you add oil to (sorry brain dead today, can't think of the correct word) keep the vacuum running, it should pull enough vacuum on your engine to prevent you from losing to much oil when you swap out the drain bolt. You can even stick a piece of cloth over the hose or hole to prevent any kind of debris from possibly falling in if you want that extra sense of safety.

We use a similar approach during oil changes on our massive gearboxes in wind turbines.

Water Warrior 2 · 01-29-2014, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ImaginativeFig

Here's a little video I shot for you guys on Sunday of Coot and his oil. I just finished editing it to my satisfaction, so here you go

Iffy, did I understand the vid correctly??? You put in 2 bottles of oil and the next day that little dribble came out into the container??

ImaginativeFig · 01-29-2014, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by blaine

I agree the bolt don't look to bad.I'd reuse it for now.

It's hard to see in the video, but all 6 corners are rounded at the top. I'm getting mighty tempted to try though anyway. I don't want to have to wait a week. If I have to wait 'til next Wednesday, that will give me 2 days (with school and work taking up most of the daylight) to figure out what's wrong with him before I need 'im to get me out to my weekend job.

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Originally Posted by Water Warrior 2

Iffy, did I understand the vid correctly??? You put in 2 bottles of oil and the next day that little dribble came out into the container??

Nonono, I put the difference between those two bottles (one was the one I'd taken from and the other was unopened) so around.... 100mL?

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01-29-2014, 08:14 AM	#57
blaine Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: P.E.I. Canada Posts: 3,784	I agree the bolt don't look to bad.I'd reuse it for now. __________________ If at first you do succeed, try not to look surprised.
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01-28-2014, 10:39 PM	#52
grasshopper Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: manning, sc Posts: 484	sorry your having such a hard time finding a bolt. I found good help at the lowes for a bolt ,temporary fix. you know just to test things out while you wait for your ordered bolt to come in. I have used them on some of my dirt bikes to get by until my other bolt came in the mail. I would not try to force a bolt in there. good luck.
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01-29-2014, 06:13 AM	#56
grasshopper Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: manning, sc Posts: 484	yeah your right about the oil change. unless you do what I have done and do a fast bolt swap. may only lose a cup or less of oil at the most, (engine cold) and you can just top that off. Nice video by the way. the bolt didn't look to bad from what I could see. if the threads are still good I would just use it. looks like you could still get a box-end wrench on it. I like the colored socket set. there is nothing like having the right tools for the job.
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01-29-2014, 10:07 AM	#58
Goose51683 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Indiana Posts: 621	Little tip I've used for other "quick" bolt swaps. Stick a vacuum hose on the hole you add oil to (sorry brain dead today, can't think of the correct word) keep the vacuum running, it should pull enough vacuum on your engine to prevent you from losing to much oil when you swap out the drain bolt. You can even stick a piece of cloth over the hose or hole to prevent any kind of debris from possibly falling in if you want that extra sense of safety. We use a similar approach during oil changes on our massive gearboxes in wind turbines.
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