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Old 03-18-2009, 08:33 PM   #51
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Re: Stalling during first fifteen minutes

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Does anybody have a GZ where the idle does NOT vary a lot from cold to hot??
Yes, but mine is a Spanish spec. I'm convinced that the problem is the politically correct, tree hugger, bullshit, that is currently affecting every facet of everyday life.
I'm 62. I've smoked, eaten fatty food, drunk my share of beer & whisky,Lived life to the full, & I'm still fine. I object to being told what to do by adolescent, homo, save the whale, vegetarian, assholes.
Over here the air is monitored in every city, & the results published, so that even the "bleeding hearts" can have a say, & the results show that the air is fine, without having to go to the extremes that seem to prevail in America (& to some extent in England) The Spanish way is "hey man, do your own thing)
What I've read on this site about the extra bits on American bikes makes me wonder why the "touchy, feely" brain dead morons weren't put down at birth. Thing have happened over the millenniums, & we're still here. The emission controls are just a way of ensuring that the government kowtow to the easily led, so that they get re-elected.

Phew ............ Glad to get that off my chest, but that's the way I feel!
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Old 03-18-2009, 08:41 PM   #52
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Hey, I don't know what happened there! I must have done something wrong since it's come up twice. Sorry about that - I'll see it doesn't happen again!
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Old 03-18-2009, 09:00 PM   #53
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Sorry to disagree, but when I first moved to Southern California, the air was chewable. It still kills a lot of people before their time, but it's much better, thanks to the efforts of the homo vegetarians.

If you have traveled much in the Far East (such as Manila or the cola mining region of China) you can see what happens when the irresponsible get to "live life to the fullest." See also, Chernobyll.

We may be still here, but more than half of us have arrived in the last 40 years, and will be joined by another 3 billion by 2150. We will probably run out of drinkable water first. That'll be fun.

I don't like authority either, but I also don't like people playing loud music next door all night, having 13 dogs barking at all hours, parking pieces of shit cars on their front lawns and honking their horns to summon their girlfriends. Noise pollution annoys me just as much as air pollution and I'm against it.
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Old 03-18-2009, 09:47 PM   #54
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My bike is a '99 and runs like a fine watch. If it's cold, I use the "choke" for starting, it starts within 1-2 seconds always, and of course it idles fast when the choke's on. As I sit on it, putting on my helmet and gloves, I turn it down real quickly to a "reasonable" slightly fast speed and within maybe one minute it's almost off. It is off by the time I reach the end of the block (less than a 1/4 mi) and my bike never stalls or misfires or runs funny.
It's hard to read some of these posts. 90% or more of the problems are had by 5% of the members on here. A little knowledge or expertise can be a dangerous thing. If you know what you are doing or how to analyze the problem and go stepwise to solve it, good. But I think many people on here are in over their heads, looking for advice or instructions on how to fix something they have no clue about. It's one thing to ask for advice in tackling a problem, it's another thing to be willing to take it to the shop to fix it when it needs to go, and you have too be smart enough to know the difference.
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Old 03-18-2009, 10:00 PM   #55
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It's one thing to ask for advice in tackling a problem, it's another thing to be willing to take it to the shop to fix it when it needs to go, and you have too be smart enough to know the difference.

Amen Brother Mrlmd1.
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but I think the idea of doing a multi-state trip with it requires a certain degree of dogged eccentricity.
Yes and your point IS ???

Just riding a bike takes "a certain degree of dogged eccentricity".

Or maybe we should talk about riding a bicycle in an urban environment ? :poke2:

That message ended up sounding very close to GZ bashing. :skull:

BTW, if you think your idle is too low, then it probably IS. Now that you have your basic problem solved you CAN turn it up a bit. :roll:
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Phew ............ Glad to get that off my chest, but that's the way I feel!
Which just goes to prove that a person is largely shaped by his environment.

Spend a week or so in metro LA in the late summer and, even WITH the "waco environmental controls", you might change your mind.

It is possible to build things that work right AND don't polute....as much.
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Old 03-18-2009, 10:10 PM   #58
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It's one thing to ask for advice in tackling a problem, it's another thing to be willing to take it to the shop to fix it when it needs to go, and you have too be smart enough to know the difference.

Amen Brother Mrlmd1.
And when you take it to the Zuki shop and it comes back WORSE than it went in........then what do you recommend ?? :popcorn:
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Old 03-18-2009, 10:16 PM   #59
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Easy wrote: "BTW, if you think your idle is too low, then it probably IS. Now that you have your basic problem solved you CAN turn it up a bit. :roll:"

Why does he think it's too slow? Does he know what it's supposed to be? What it's supposed to sound like? It's not stalling anymore. Why screw with it? That's what got him into trouble in the first place. Don't you think the shop set it right? That's another time fixing something that ain't broke, and then it won't work right, and it starts all over. :??: :poke2:
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That's what got him into trouble in the first place.
Oh Geeeezzz......give me a break. :skull:

Adjusting the idle speed is NOT what "got him in trouble" in the first place.

As it turns out, he may not have done ANYTHING to contribute to the problem.
(Except maybe for filling the gas tank too full.)

So.........we have had this discussion before. If the idle is too low, so is the oil pressure......which IS a problem. It also makes starting out in first a little more tricky. It also makes shifting more jerky, down shifting in particular.

In summary: There are lots of reasons to NOT run the bike with a low idle speed and there is NO reason not to tweek it up a tad. That IS why they put a big white adjustment knob on there, after all.

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