Getting Comfortable At Speeds - Page 6

primal · 09-10-2008, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by alanmcorcoran

Primal - I watched the video. Pretty funny, but the dude used the full width of the roadway every time he made a turn - this is very poor technique to say the least. Any traffic coming in the opposite direction and he's going to have a head on collision. You have to stay on your side! Maybe this is supposed to be a one way road, but I've never seen a one way road out in the middle of nowhere. He also didn't mention the outside, inside, outside method for maximizing visibility and reducing the chances of getting clipped by someone crossing over the center line coming the other way. He did a good job on the slow down to enter and gas up to exit part.

It's a rural single-lane road in Idaho (hmm... I'm guessing in Anaheim you aren't familiar with such a thing, are you?), and certainly not a blind turn. Do you know how difficult it would be to illustrate the same concept without using the full width of the road? In fact, its the very reason he chose to go way out in the middle of nowhere to show the concept rather than on the streets in town.

The actual video was itself about the placement of the "inside" of the outside-inside-outside technique.

Jer · 09-10-2008, 08:42 AM

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I can always do a lot better the second time down the same stretch, even if it is in reverse.

Man, Alan is hardcore. Making turns in REVERSE now!!!!!

Show-off...

:lol:

Magnar Infectus · 09-10-2008, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Jer

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I can always do a lot better the second time down the same stretch, even if it is in reverse.

Man, Alan is hardcore. Making turns in REVERSE now!!!!!

Show-off...

:lol:

And rich. You wouldn't believe how much it costs to have a reverse gear put in a GZ250. I couldn't afford it so I had to do without.
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Easy Rider · 09-10-2008, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Orpheus

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Originally Posted by Dupo

And no, i dont wanna hear about me not wearing a helmet

After you suffer the brain damage, you won't understand what they're saying anyway.
:2tup:

TOO LATE! :biggrin: :crackup

alanmcorcoran · 09-10-2008, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by primal

It's a rural single-lane road in Idaho (hmm... I'm guessing in Anaheim you aren't familiar with such a thing, are you?), and certainly not a blind turn. Do you know how difficult it would be to illustrate the same concept without using the full width of the road? In fact, its the very reason he chose to go way out in the middle of nowhere to show the concept rather than on the streets in town.

The actual video was itself about the placement of the "inside" of the outside-inside-outside technique.

I kind of get it, but, to me, if you are going to go to the trouble of working on your skills, you should focus on developing consistent habits that will be there for you when you need to do them instinctually. This means always using both brakes, even though we all know it's not really necessary. And never crossing the center line, even though there is no traffic coming. Then, when circumstances are not ideal and you have to do something without thinking (react), you are more likely to come out of it "miraculously." Even in the guy's animation he shows the path of travel crossing the center line. I've seen two examples of this in the MSF course (apex, and outside/inside/outside) and several more in Proficient Motorcycling and none of them showed the bike crossing the center line. In fact, Proficient opens with a true story about a multiple fatality caused by that exact error. It's nice that the guy made the video and I think he has excellent intentions, but I think it is flawed nonetheless. Just my two cents.

PS. I have actually ridden beyond the borders of Anaheim. And more than once! (Plus, I have also lived other places outside of this bustling metropolis, like Ithaca NY, Edison NJ and so on.) So, yes I am familiar with the boonies!

Jer · 09-10-2008, 03:01 PM

I'll show you guys boonies.....

music man · 09-10-2008, 04:19 PM

I don't think that anywhere in New Jersey, or Ithaca New York could be considered the boonies, I can take you places where if you get lost they probably won't ever even find your body.

Later

patrick_777 · 09-10-2008, 04:22 PM

You obviously have never watched The Sopranos.

music man · 09-10-2008, 04:25 PM

Yes I realize that there are plenty of places in New York(especially upstate) and New Jersey to get rid of a body, but that doesn't mean that it is the boonies.

Later

Dupo · 09-11-2008, 12:30 AM

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I'll show you guys boonies.....

I had to read that twice, i thought he wrote 'ill show you guys some boobies' :blush:

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Jer Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Des Moines IA USA Posts: 310	Re: Getting Comfortable At Speeds I'll show you guys boonies..... __________________ "There's many who tried, to prove that they're faster, but they didn't last and they died as they tried!"
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09-10-2008, 04:19 PM	#57
music man Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Hot Springs Arkansas Posts: 1,127	Re: Getting Comfortable At Speeds I don't think that anywhere in New Jersey, or Ithaca New York could be considered the boonies, I can take you places where if you get lost they probably won't ever even find your body. Later __________________ "Tell me what kind of wreck you're going to have and I'll tell you what type of helmet you need." [Author Unknown]
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09-10-2008, 04:22 PM	#58
patrick_777 Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 1,763	Re: Getting Comfortable At Speeds You obviously have never watched The Sopranos. __________________ ]I am hiding in Honduras. I am a desperate man. Send lawyers, guns and money. The shit has hit the fan.
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09-10-2008, 04:25 PM	#59
music man Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Hot Springs Arkansas Posts: 1,127	Re: Getting Comfortable At Speeds Yes I realize that there are plenty of places in New York(especially upstate) and New Jersey to get rid of a body, but that doesn't mean that it is the boonies. Later __________________ "Tell me what kind of wreck you're going to have and I'll tell you what type of helmet you need." [Author Unknown]
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