Please help me get my bike started

[Water Warrior 2]

Originally Posted by alantf

pipe - hose. Just 2 different words for the same thing. Don't forget I'm English. :neener:

Anyone ever read an English owners manual for a car ? Bonnets and boots ?? What, they dress up their cars. ............ Actually perfectly logical after a little thought.

[swistech]

I have this problem
Will not idle with chole off. It will stall out.
Will idle only with choke wide open. It also back fires when I start it quite a few times. I want to replace stock carb with the best one avaible for more power.
Any suggestions were or what to buy?
Thanks

[alantf]

Originally Posted by swistech

I have this problem
Will not idle with chole off. It will stall out. It also back fires when I start it quite a few times.

Have you tried screwing the idle ajuster (big white knob) in a little?

Backfire usually suggests a timing (spark) problem, but with electronic ignition, I don't know if this could be the case. Anyone out there who can come up with a solution? :??:

[blaine]

Sounds like a gummed up carb,try some SEAFOAM or BERRYMANS in a couple of tanks of gas.Most carb problems are caused by dirt and varnish from poor maintenance.Does not mean you need new carburetor.

[swistech]

So it is alright to ride the bike with the choke wide open....It is not going to run to lean and heat the motor up and boil it......thanks

[Easy Rider]

Originally Posted by blaine

Does not mean you need new carburetor.

And finding one that would actually WORK is likely to be a problem anyway.

**IF** he isn't using the choke backwards........then the carb probably needs a dis-assembly cleaning. If it really only runs with the choke all the way ON, then it's probably beyond in-the-tank cleaners.

[Easy Rider]

Originally Posted by swistech

So it is alright to ride the bike with the choke wide open....

No, not really.
When the choke is ON, it is usually referred to as closed.
If you ride it like that very long it won't do any serious harm but might foul the plug fairly soon.

Are you really saying that you can't decrease the choke ANY, even after the engine warms up ??

P.S. It's not nice to hi-jack somebody else's thread with your own, different problem. :poke2:

[Water Warrior 2]

Originally Posted by swistech

So it is alright to ride the bike with the choke wide open....It is not going to run to lean and heat the motor up and boil it......thanks

Just to clear things up a little. The choke lever should be pulled toward the operator to engage it and pushed forward away from the operator to disengage it.
The choke is actually a fuel enrichener rather than an actual choke but we call it that anyway. And......is it alright to run the bike with the choke wide open. By wide open do you mean the choke lever is pulled back to fully engage the choke ? The engine would be running rich rather than lean. Probably foul the plug in time and probably wouldn't idle worth a darn after it warmed up to operating temp. Ideally the choke is off after a couple minutes of warm up and it will idle well without any messing around. Being that GZs are a bit fussy on ocassion there is a learning curve for the rider.

[ncff07]

Originally Posted by Water Warrior

Just to clear things up a little. The choke lever should be pulled toward the operator to engage it and pushed forward away from the operator to disengage it.
The choke is actually a fuel enrichener rather than an actual choke but we call it that anyway. And......is it alright to run the bike with the choke wide open. By wide open do you mean the choke lever is pulled back to fully engage the choke ? The engine would be running rich rather than lean. Probably foul the plug in time and probably wouldn't idle worth a darn after it warmed up to operating temp. Ideally the choke is off after a couple minutes of warm up and it will idle well without any messing around. Being that GZs are a bit fussy on ocassion there is a learning curve for the rider.

Thats one of the things the instructors in the MSF class made a point to make sure we had drilled in our heads. ONLY use the choke when you HAVE to it would foul the plug really quick otherwise. When I use it its usually less than a minute until the bike will idle fine without the choke at all. I have the MSF BRC handbook in a pdf file if its needed. Should stil be the current version since it was November 2009 when I took the class.

[swistech]

I did not mean to high jack this thread it just was almost the same problem I am having...Yes the choke is all the way in the direction of the operator. Then I try to move it away from the operator and the bike stalls. Is this the idle port in the carb or the needle is stuck or something.