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Old 10-05-2011, 06:05 PM   #31
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Re: NEW! STA-BIL® Ethanol Treatment.

I sure hope that is an old concept car that will never go into production. The only good thing about it is the low drag co-efficient.



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Old 10-06-2011, 08:04 PM   #32
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I sure hope that is an old concept car that will never go into production. The only good thing about it is the low drag co-efficient.
No no, that's the EV1, an electric car that was produced in the 90s. It is the main subject of the movie "Who killed the electric car". Go see it.

Short story, a couple hundred people got to ride this car in the late 90s I think, in California, and they all loved it, it ran great, hardly any maintenance needed. But they had it leased from GM who successively killed it. Under great protest from the riders. Who's to blame? big oil (less sales); the existing car industry (long life); the garage industry (less work); politicians jumping on the still-a-fantasy hydrogen bandwagon (hysteria); and a couple others.

There are only a few left, in museums. None of them in running condition, GM paralyzed them. And crushed all others.
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Old 10-06-2011, 09:54 PM   #33
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Oh, that one. I seem to remember some good things about it. The folks who had them were very happy with them. I doubt they would be great in a colder climate but in Cali they would be dandy. Quite possibly it could have evolved into a real dandy electric car that would work for a lot of consumers.



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Old 10-06-2011, 10:09 PM   #34
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Old 10-06-2011, 10:14 PM   #35
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Hmm. Maybe we should just make more fuel efficient cars and keep burning fossil fuels.



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Old 10-06-2011, 11:06 PM   #36
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Quite possibly it could have evolved into a real dandy electric car that would work for a lot of consumers.
It already *had* evolved into that, the people that used it loved it, there was a waiting list for it, and the upgraded version with the (then) new NiMH batteries had a much larger range. And why wouldn't it work in a cold climate? just use some of the juice to warm up the interior.

Anyway, there is now a new movie by the same director, about the return of the electric car. All well end well, let's hope.
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Old 10-06-2011, 11:24 PM   #37
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Kind of reminds me of the 1948 Tucker that was so evolved that the government & the "Big 3" felt that it had to be squashed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Tucker_Sedan
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Old 10-11-2011, 10:18 AM   #39
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Re: NEW! STA-BIL® Ethanol Treatment.

This is as close as I will ever get to my dream car....


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Photos taken at the Tellus Science Museum in N. Georgia.


All of them...100%.... were removed from the leasee's custody, taken to a scrap lot out in California and crushed, against the wishes and intent of the leasee's to pay off the remainder of the loans and maintain the cars on their own without the support of GM. The few that exist in museums are void of all drive systems and anything that could possibly be copied so as to remake the cars...

And they swear up and down that it was not a conspiracy.

http://www.evnut.com/images/ev1/ev1_gra ... crush6.jpg

Photo journal of the last day, including photos pre and post crushing.
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