the geezers plug chop!! - Page 4

blaine · 07-25-2011, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by mrlmd1

Never give up on an idea unless you can prove to yourself it won't work. Great effort. :2tup: :rawk:
Are you going to go back to stock now? :poke2: :poke2:

He didn't say that it didn't work.He said the bike was not any faster.I never said any of the mods would make the bike any faster.I have stated many times that my bike ran better,started easier,and had more power for hills,& cruised easier,especially with the 16t sprocket.But faster,"not" going to happen.All this worked well for me,because most of my riding was at cruising speeds out on the open road.

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geezer · 07-25-2011, 08:05 PM

well truth is the bike now has a very slight surge to it at part throttle cruise so im going back down to the original setting on the needle, just the washer. also i might go down to the 140 main jet and see what its all about. yeah sure the bike feels a bit better up hills but sometimes theres a car in front of me and we all know that they really cut the wind drag for us so hmmm i dont know

the little tweeks i did to the bike made no noticable increase in power or throttle responce, and now im running so rich i have some lag when i first hit the gas. this morning it didnt even start, i had to take out a turn on the mixture screw and then it fired up. im bringing the poor thing inside now to rectify my mistakes. and on that note, im glad i did it and i learned alot from this bike. So Mr. L no im not going back to stock, first off i cant cause the new muffler is welded on, not to mention you have to cut the old one off. then there is the lawnmower nasty sound it used to make lol. also the intake sound it makes with the new filter is nice and throaty. so no im not going to stock but back at the settings i had it on. i just thought a 4 valve 250 would have more power on tap and it just needed some choice mods and tuning. :itsokay: WRONG!!

mrlmd1 · 07-25-2011, 08:07 PM

Doesn't "i regret to inform everyone but all this was really for nothing" mean it didn't work? What was he trying to accomplish? Wasn't he trying to make the bike faster or better in any way? His words - it was all for nothing, not mine. And he is being honest about it and telling the rest of us. By all this for nothing seems to mean that nothing was accomplished with all his hard work and persistence.
I'm not criticizing him for doing this, I am really congratulating him for seeing all this through, and he came to his own conclusion which some members on here maybe would have anticipated or at least have been wanting to see some positive result so this knowledge could be passed on to someone else who wants to do the same thing. I sincerely applaud his effort and how he went about this, but I believe this shows that trying to get any significant "more" out of this engine, with his mods at least, is not really going to happen. I would like to see what happens to his gas mileage with all he has done. Again, thanks for the effort and I think it was done in the right way.

geezer · 07-25-2011, 08:38 PM

no need to argue fellas

short answer to everything; bike was super shitty bone stock, i hated the way it sounded, buuuut it never gave me any issues. i like where i had the bike prior to my plug chop with the 136 main and washer on the needle. ill play around with the mixture screw to get ride of a funny starting issue, its hit or miss. yes this info i will preach like a bad sermon to all who wanna try it. but its there decision to do it. now you never know, someone else might find the magic "GZ" spot. haha funny.

mrlmd1 · 07-25-2011, 11:44 PM

You may find that sweet spot you are looking for if you keep going. Otherwise get it running right and accept it for what it is. Or get a bigger bike. I went from the GZ to an S50 and really like that bike (one of 3 I have now, all different),
BTW, what part of GA are you in? As hot up there as in FL?

geezer · 07-26-2011, 07:15 PM

no not anywhere near as hot as florida. im in north ga. i was in tampa a month ago and it was bad, real bad. ive had plenty of bikes. truth is im not a beginner class rider. in the past ive owned an fzr 600, xj 750, xvs 650, ninja 600. the gz is my ex girlfriends and has become by test bed lol. she hates the fact that im messing with it but if she has a problem shes gotta deal with it. i wont let her touch the bike till she at least has a permit. bike i own now is an fzr 1000, and i havent riden it in over 4 months. due to money issues and i dont even have a car right now so its all gz, all the time lol

geezer · 07-31-2011, 12:12 AM

hey mr l, my fuel economy went up from 64 to 67 mpg! im so stoked about that. so looks like i was correct in my thinking, more fuel to the engine = less throttle application= more fuel economy :biggrin: well how about that? :2tup: just incase your curious my bike is usually going up hill and running at 60mph.

mrlmd1 · 07-31-2011, 10:25 AM

If it's working well, performing well, then be satisfied that you accomplished something and stop screwing with it and get out and ride!

geezer · 07-31-2011, 11:52 AM

absolutely done screwing with it. it starts up good runs good and gets good, im pleased.

geezer · 07-31-2011, 11:57 AM

btw, i have put over 4000 miles on the bike in 3 months of ownership. so dont worry i get out and ride it :2tup:

07-25-2011, 08:05 PM	#32
geezer Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: dahlonega GA Posts: 563	Re: the geezers plug chop!! well truth is the bike now has a very slight surge to it at part throttle cruise so im going back down to the original setting on the needle, just the washer. also i might go down to the 140 main jet and see what its all about. yeah sure the bike feels a bit better up hills but sometimes theres a car in front of me and we all know that they really cut the wind drag for us so hmmm i dont know the little tweeks i did to the bike made no noticable increase in power or throttle responce, and now im running so rich i have some lag when i first hit the gas. this morning it didnt even start, i had to take out a turn on the mixture screw and then it fired up. im bringing the poor thing inside now to rectify my mistakes. and on that note, im glad i did it and i learned alot from this bike. So Mr. L no im not going back to stock, first off i cant cause the new muffler is welded on, not to mention you have to cut the old one off. then there is the lawnmower nasty sound it used to make lol. also the intake sound it makes with the new filter is nice and throaty. so no im not going to stock but back at the settings i had it on. i just thought a 4 valve 250 would have more power on tap and it just needed some choice mods and tuning. :itsokay: WRONG!! __________________ 99 gz 250 and a currently dismantled fzr 1000
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07-25-2011, 08:07 PM	#33
mrlmd1 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Crawfordville, Florida Posts: 2,853	Re: the geezers plug chop!! Doesn't "i regret to inform everyone but all this was really for nothing" mean it didn't work? What was he trying to accomplish? Wasn't he trying to make the bike faster or better in any way? His words - it was all for nothing, not mine. And he is being honest about it and telling the rest of us. By all this for nothing seems to mean that nothing was accomplished with all his hard work and persistence. I'm not criticizing him for doing this, I am really congratulating him for seeing all this through, and he came to his own conclusion which some members on here maybe would have anticipated or at least have been wanting to see some positive result so this knowledge could be passed on to someone else who wants to do the same thing. I sincerely applaud his effort and how he went about this, but I believe this shows that trying to get any significant "more" out of this engine, with his mods at least, is not really going to happen. I would like to see what happens to his gas mileage with all he has done. Again, thanks for the effort and I think it was done in the right way. Login or Register to Remove Ads
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07-25-2011, 08:38 PM	#34
geezer Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: dahlonega GA Posts: 563	Re: the geezers plug chop!! no need to argue fellas short answer to everything; bike was super shitty bone stock, i hated the way it sounded, buuuut it never gave me any issues. i like where i had the bike prior to my plug chop with the 136 main and washer on the needle. ill play around with the mixture screw to get ride of a funny starting issue, its hit or miss. yes this info i will preach like a bad sermon to all who wanna try it. but its there decision to do it. now you never know, someone else might find the magic "GZ" spot. haha funny. __________________ 99 gz 250 and a currently dismantled fzr 1000
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07-25-2011, 11:44 PM	#35
mrlmd1 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Crawfordville, Florida Posts: 2,853	Re: the geezers plug chop!! You may find that sweet spot you are looking for if you keep going. Otherwise get it running right and accept it for what it is. Or get a bigger bike. I went from the GZ to an S50 and really like that bike (one of 3 I have now, all different), BTW, what part of GA are you in? As hot up there as in FL? Login or Register to Remove Ads
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07-26-2011, 07:15 PM	#36
geezer Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: dahlonega GA Posts: 563	Re: the geezers plug chop!! no not anywhere near as hot as florida. im in north ga. i was in tampa a month ago and it was bad, real bad. ive had plenty of bikes. truth is im not a beginner class rider. in the past ive owned an fzr 600, xj 750, xvs 650, ninja 600. the gz is my ex girlfriends and has become by test bed lol. she hates the fact that im messing with it but if she has a problem shes gotta deal with it. i wont let her touch the bike till she at least has a permit. bike i own now is an fzr 1000, and i havent riden it in over 4 months. due to money issues and i dont even have a car right now so its all gz, all the time lol __________________ 99 gz 250 and a currently dismantled fzr 1000
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07-31-2011, 12:12 AM	#37
geezer Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: dahlonega GA Posts: 563	Re: the geezers plug chop!! hey mr l, my fuel economy went up from 64 to 67 mpg! im so stoked about that. so looks like i was correct in my thinking, more fuel to the engine = less throttle application= more fuel economy :biggrin: well how about that? :2tup: just incase your curious my bike is usually going up hill and running at 60mph. __________________ 99 gz 250 and a currently dismantled fzr 1000
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07-31-2011, 10:25 AM	#38
mrlmd1 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Crawfordville, Florida Posts: 2,853	Re: the geezers plug chop!! If it's working well, performing well, then be satisfied that you accomplished something and stop screwing with it and get out and ride!
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07-31-2011, 11:52 AM	#39
geezer Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: dahlonega GA Posts: 563	Re: the geezers plug chop!! absolutely done screwing with it. it starts up good runs good and gets good, im pleased. __________________ 99 gz 250 and a currently dismantled fzr 1000
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07-31-2011, 11:57 AM	#40
geezer Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: dahlonega GA Posts: 563	Re: the geezers plug chop!! btw, i have put over 4000 miles on the bike in 3 months of ownership. so dont worry i get out and ride it :2tup: __________________ 99 gz 250 and a currently dismantled fzr 1000
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