two finger technique

[Easy Rider]

Originally Posted by bonehead

Finally! A referee.

We take turns......and it seems QUITE out of character at times !! :roll: :biggrin:

[Sarris]

No, your technique is incorrect. At the MSF class they teach you to pull the lever to the GRIP. The manufacturer says 15 mm off the GRIP.

What don't you get? It's your bike, fuck it up all you want, that's your right.

But, don't sing that shit as gospel here for the newbies to pick up. Wrong technique is wrong technique.

So.... I politely disagree.

:biggun:

[primal]

Well Sarris, disagree all you want, but you'd be hard pressed to prove that I'm the only rider out there who finds that pulling the clutch in all the way is necessary for proper shifting. Unfortunately I'd be violating forum rules by showing you a dozen threads on other forums that backup what I said.

It is funny that you got so worked up over this, though...

[Sarris]

Yeah, a dozen dumb asses is still a dozen dumb asses.

And...... I'm not worked up. Just politely disagreeing.

[primal]

If that was you politely disagreeing, I'd hate to see you pissed...

[Easy Rider]

Originally Posted by primal

you'd be hard pressed to prove that I'm the only rider out there who finds that pulling the clutch in all the way is necessary for proper shifting.

What ?? You might want to proof read a bit! Kinda funny that you contradicted your own point though.

Unfortunately I'd be violating forum rules by showing you a dozen threads on other forums that backup what I said.

What rule would that be? I don't remember seeing any such thing. It is YOU who made the original contention; it is on YOU to back it up.

Oh, and let's not be finding quotes from road track racers or stunters......it is assumed that we are talking about techniques useful to the general public.
A post on an Internet forum is, after all, the best reference one can find.... :roll:

[primal]

Are there not rules against posting links to other forums?

[Easy Rider]

Originally Posted by primal

Are there not rules against posting links to other forums?

Are there?
You keep making assertions with nothing (so far) to back them up.

You don't have to post links; post some quotes from someone who has slightly more qualifications than "self appointed expert".

And to quote a recognized expert on dumb asses:
"Yeah, a dozen dumb asses is still [just] a dozen dumb asses." :shocked: :biggrin:

[primal]

Originally Posted by Easy Rider

Are there?
You keep making assertions with nothing (so far) to back them up.

Ah, well there seems to be a lot of that going on in this thread, huh? Like your assertion that it is difficult to tell when the clutch is disengaged. I can't remember what it was like on the GZ, but I can tell you for a fact that it was extremely easy to tell when the clutch was disengaged on my KZ550. Perhaps thats because inline-4s have a ton of engine braking, I don't know. But I can tell you that between the loss of engine braking and the freely revving engine while blipping the throttle to match revs (on downshifts) makes it very evident when the clutch is disengaged.

Besides, even if the clutch IS slightly engaged, slipping for a tenth of a second is hardly going to cause any clutch damage. Certainly no more than riding the clutch in low speed maneuvers.

[Easy Rider]

Originally Posted by primal

But I can tell you that between the loss of engine braking and the freely revving engine while blipping the throttle to match revs (on downshifts) makes it very evident when the clutch is disengaged.

Besides, even if the clutch IS slightly engaged, slipping for a tenth of a second is hardly going to cause any clutch damage. Certainly no more than riding the clutch in low speed maneuvers.

Just stop, please. You are making yourself look (more) foolish.
I quit.