Top 3 factors in Motorcycle Traffic Fatalities - Page 4

kk4dbi · 09-18-2011, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by alanmcorcoran

David,

I was surprised to see that you didn't have "Proficient Motorcycling" in your list of references. If you have chance (and $25) I highly recommend you pick up this book from Amazon or the local bookstore. The 2008 edition is not only jam packed with really useful MC riding info, it's, well, a beautiful book! Great photos, diagrams, paper. It's really very well put together.

David Hough opens the book with a description of a pretty horrific accident and then dives right into the same statistics that you cited above (and pretty much comes to the same conclusions.) He digs a little deeper than the stats and goes a little beyond some of their conclusions (such as noting that many non-fatal single MC accidents go non reported, big bike vs non big bike, and (dare I say it) some criticism of recent changes to the MSF (he is a former MSF instructor.)

Anyway, I buy (and read) a lot of books, and many, especially when they come to things like skiing, swimming and racquetball (and the like), are poorly written, poorly organized and difficult to get anything other than the obvious from. Not true with "Proficient." It's extremely well written (even humorous and interesting!) yet, it is chock full of very simple, easy to use info on every page, with detailed illustrations, photos, etc. Highly recommended.

(I just reread the section on cornering, throttle control, etc. and it is spot on.)

I'm buying this book thanks to your recommendation..!!!

Slagugglan · 10-11-2011, 11:57 AM

Good helmet, proper safety clothing, common sense... how many bikers could still be alive today hadn't they been foolish.

Don't drink and drive, don't drive recklessly, and DON'T EXPECT THAT CAR WILL SEE YOU, cos it won't... nine times out of ten.

Ride safe, and rest in peace to those who were not lucky enough to make it.

daisymazy · 10-11-2011, 06:21 PM

Got my permit in january. in north carolina you can drive on a permit for a year. practiced on my dead end barely traveled road. got my gz on the main roads with my husband . he has a harley and has ridden for years so was a big help. but i never felt good about riding until i took and passed the motorcycle safety course this summer and got my license. that course is so helpful and i almost always hear one of my instructors telling me the right way to go around curves, dangers of intersections and even the way to check out your bike before putting it on the road. i thought after the first full day in the heat on that asphalt and very strict training i had payed 170 dollars to go to hell for 22 hours.before the course was over i knew it was the best money i ever spent. i love riding and i love my 250gz. happy and safe riding to all.

Water Warrior 2 · 10-11-2011, 07:37 PM

Congrats. It is so good to hear some one has taken a course and praise the results. Sounds like you had good instructors who knew what to look for with a new rider. Have you noticed the bike is not near as intimidating after the course ?

daisymazy · 10-11-2011, 07:58 PM

you are so right i respect the bike now more than fear it. i may go to something a little bigger next summer but would keep my gz. after all i am not a spring chicken anymore and may have to go back to the gz.

Water Warrior 2 · 10-12-2011, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by daisymazy

you are so right i respect the bike now more than fear it. i may go to something a little bigger next summer but would keep my gz. after all i am not a spring chicken anymore and may have to go back to the gz.

My SO(Lynda) is a grandmother who started on a GZ and upgraded to the M-50. She recently rode solo half way across Canada and back. Had a wonderful time too. You never know what the future holds till you get there.

daisymazy · 10-12-2011, 08:20 AM

thats great . i am 66 but my body doesn't know it yet. thank goodness. i still water ski and do everything my grown children do. wish i lived close to lynda. we could start a granny bikers club . my best to lynda.

Road_Clam · 02-14-2012, 06:44 AM

Back in the early 80's when I was young and racing motocross, I was schooled by a expert veteran rider and he voiced a comment to me that has stuck in my mind for the past 30 years of riding. He said "remember this phrase from now on weather it be riding dirt or street"

"Keep your head up, LOOK AHEAD, and THINK AHEAD"

I silently whisper this phrase to myself every time I strap on my helmet.... i'ts kept me accident free for the past 30 years...(knock on wood )

dieter33 · 02-26-2012, 10:29 AM

It's better to post this to let the bikers "who don't know about"

joebielski · 11-15-2012, 10:25 AM

GREAT Write up!!! I actually printed it out to keep with all my bike stuff. I'll also get the Proficient Motorcycling book ASAP. Here in Ontario we have a Graduated License system for both bikes and cars. M1, then M2 then full M License. Each has a period of time so you can get practice, but if you take an MSR course the times are reduced. And if you pass the MSR course, you get the next level license instead of going through the ministry of transportation. When I did my M2 course it was a 3 day class. 6 hours in a class room, then 2x 10 hour session on the bikes. That weekend it was POURING rain, but we learned SO MUCH!!!! And of course the hazards of driving in the rain. Great course.

10-11-2011, 11:57 AM	#32
Slagugglan Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Italy Posts: 15	Re: Top 3 factors in Motorcycle Traffic Fatalities Good helmet, proper safety clothing, common sense... how many bikers could still be alive today hadn't they been foolish. Don't drink and drive, don't drive recklessly, and DON'T EXPECT THAT CAR WILL SEE YOU, cos it won't... nine times out of ten. Ride safe, and rest in peace to those who were not lucky enough to make it.
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10-11-2011, 06:21 PM	#33
daisymazy Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: north carolina Posts: 28	Re: Top 3 factors in Motorcycle Traffic Fatalities Got my permit in january. in north carolina you can drive on a permit for a year. practiced on my dead end barely traveled road. got my gz on the main roads with my husband . he has a harley and has ridden for years so was a big help. but i never felt good about riding until i took and passed the motorcycle safety course this summer and got my license. that course is so helpful and i almost always hear one of my instructors telling me the right way to go around curves, dangers of intersections and even the way to check out your bike before putting it on the road. i thought after the first full day in the heat on that asphalt and very strict training i had payed 170 dollars to go to hell for 22 hours.before the course was over i knew it was the best money i ever spent. i love riding and i love my 250gz. happy and safe riding to all. Login or Register to Remove Ads
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10-11-2011, 07:37 PM	#34
Water Warrior 2 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Squamish B.C Canada Posts: 11,409	Re: Top 3 factors in Motorcycle Traffic Fatalities Congrats. It is so good to hear some one has taken a course and praise the results. Sounds like you had good instructors who knew what to look for with a new rider. Have you noticed the bike is not near as intimidating after the course ?
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10-11-2011, 07:58 PM	#35
daisymazy Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: north carolina Posts: 28	Re: Top 3 factors in Motorcycle Traffic Fatalities you are so right i respect the bike now more than fear it. i may go to something a little bigger next summer but would keep my gz. after all i am not a spring chicken anymore and may have to go back to the gz. Login or Register to Remove Ads
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10-12-2011, 08:20 AM	#37
daisymazy Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: north carolina Posts: 28	Re: Top 3 factors in Motorcycle Traffic Fatalities thats great . i am 66 but my body doesn't know it yet. thank goodness. i still water ski and do everything my grown children do. wish i lived close to lynda. we could start a granny bikers club . my best to lynda.
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02-14-2012, 06:44 AM	#38
Road_Clam Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: sounthern NH Posts: 146	Re: Top 3 factors in Motorcycle Traffic Fatalities Back in the early 80's when I was young and racing motocross, I was schooled by a expert veteran rider and he voiced a comment to me that has stuck in my mind for the past 30 years of riding. He said "remember this phrase from now on weather it be riding dirt or street" "Keep your head up, LOOK AHEAD, and THINK AHEAD" I silently whisper this phrase to myself every time I strap on my helmet.... i'ts kept me accident free for the past 30 years...(knock on wood ) __________________ 1984 GPz1100 1987 GSX-R 750 2006 HD Fatboy 2001 KX500 2007 YZ450F 2001 GZ250 (Wife's !)
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02-26-2012, 10:29 AM	#39
dieter33 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 16	Re: Top 3 factors in Motorcycle Traffic Fatalities It's better to post this to let the bikers "who don't know about" __________________ "no women, no cry " http://www.windshield-shop.com/
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11-15-2012, 10:25 AM	#40
joebielski Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Toronto Canada Posts: 32	Re: Top 3 factors in Motorcycle Traffic Fatalities GREAT Write up!!! I actually printed it out to keep with all my bike stuff. I'll also get the Proficient Motorcycling book ASAP. Here in Ontario we have a Graduated License system for both bikes and cars. M1, then M2 then full M License. Each has a period of time so you can get practice, but if you take an MSR course the times are reduced. And if you pass the MSR course, you get the next level license instead of going through the ministry of transportation. When I did my M2 course it was a 3 day class. 6 hours in a class room, then 2x 10 hour session on the bikes. That weekend it was POURING rain, but we learned SO MUCH!!!! And of course the hazards of driving in the rain. Great course.
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