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Old 08-11-2010, 03:47 AM   #21
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Re: Idle problems

To end this sorry tale, its now officially cheaper to buy another motorcycle than persist with the GZ250. That being said, I'm still gonna persist with getting it back on the road and winning again, but I have to get another bike to get to work cause Melbournes public transport is best described as lacklustre.

So thanks for all the help.
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Old 08-11-2010, 05:51 AM   #22
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To end this sorry tale, its now officially cheaper to buy another motorcycle than persist with the GZ250.
Why? What'd the mechanic say?
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Old 08-13-2010, 04:41 AM   #23
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To end this sorry tale, its now officially cheaper to buy another motorcycle than persist with the GZ250.
Why? What'd the mechanic say?
YAH, what he said.



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Old 08-13-2010, 08:30 AM   #24
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Re: Idle problems

ok here goes....
cylinder head = replace
valves = replace
piston = replace
carb = rebuild/replace
battery = replace
and some things i didn't know where wrong
new exhaust, as the old one has a hole in it
fork seals = replace

and of course he gave me a quote for this, and total plus labour came to the amount of $2300.
So I can do this all myself, except for the carb rebuild (not confident enough)
hence why I'm keeping the GZ around and not trading it in. I've been offered a $2200 2004 GPX250 by a friend who's dad rode it, but now is too old to ride (he's now in a home)
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Old 08-13-2010, 09:22 AM   #25
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How about Mechanic = replace! Sounds like he's too much time on his hands & not enough customers. Did he tell you how he came to the conclusion that you need to finance his next holiday to the Caribbean? :??:
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I think your mechanic is delusional.Did he actually tear the bike down to come to this conclusion,or is he making claims at your expense?

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So I can do this all myself, except for the carb rebuild (not confident enough)
hence why I'm keeping the GZ around and not trading it in.
Two thoughts on that:

You do realize that in order to do the engine work, you have to "split" the lower case......which effectively means taking the transmission apart too.....right ??

And I think most people with a "worn out" engine in most any vehicle would be wanting to trade it in and get a few bucks out of it instead of keeping it around. Any special reason that you are going the other way ??
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I think your mechanic is delusional.Did he actually tear the bike down to come to this conclusion,or is he making claims at your expense?
Based on what he went through just to get to this point, it would appear that the bike was severely neglected by a previous owner or two. He didn't give us the mileage, that I remember, but I suspect it is on the high side.

Assuming for arguements sake that is true, I think the estimate he got is probably a good "cover your ass" figure from the shop; that is, worst case when they get it apart. Rings and valves for sure; some of that other stuff, maybe not......but that's only a couple of hunderd more since you already have it apart.

Probably a good call to trade it in, sell for parts or look for a complete engine/tranny in good condition.
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Old 08-14-2010, 10:36 PM   #29
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well the mechanic is the local suzuki store. They came recommended to me y by a good friend who is a school auto teacher. They had the bike for three days, and had the engine out and on a stand, and pointed out most of these issues to me then and there. So, from that, I'm gonna tend to agree that it was a cover their asses quote.

32,0000 kms is what it reads on the clock. I can only guess at what the PO had done to it, beyond not knowing what a torque wrench is, because on closer inspection of the bike you can see where they have used a rattle gun to put most of the bolts back in.

As far as trading it in, I'm a big fan of this little bike, and it certainly punches well above its weight. So I've decided I'm gonna fix it up over the long term.

On the new bike front, Mrs Baseball has put her foot down and declared that there is no way I'm allowed to get a sportsbike. I tend not to wish to argue with her on this one, as she has mentioned sleeping on the couch and a refusal of certain activities that one enjoys with her.
So I'm now looking for another cruiser motorcycle, again, I'm gonna stick with a 250 due to the fuel savings, and the personal view of I'm not really interested in anything bigger. I've ridden the Gladius 650, the CBR10000(pirate, too many RR's), and the VT750 along with some other 250's and found no real huge selling point of going bigger.

So the two bikes I've narrowed things down to are the VL250 intruder (suzuki) or the GV250 Aquilla (Hyosung), and its now only down to aesthetics that are the issue. I don't really like the gauge on the fuel tank of the VL250, but then there is a wanky badge on the side of the GV250 declaring it as a v-twin, which I think is an eyesore.

Since I'm getting either one or the other this week I'll let you all know.

And Easy, I'm aware its not a simple task to do most of the repairs needed, but you've gotta learn somewhere right? Have no fear thou, I'll have plenty of questions to ask, and am still ever thankful for all of your and everyones help here.
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And Easy, I'm aware its not a simple task to do most of the repairs needed, but you've gotta learn somewhere right? Have no fear thou, I'll have plenty of questions to ask, and am still ever thankful for all of your and everyones help here.
You are in a perfect situation to do that: learn by doing......on somthing where you don't have a deadline to get it back on the road.

The problem likely IS that you will find scant little help here for splitting the case and doing whatever you need to do to keep the transmission in tact so you can get it back together.
I just don't think anybody here has ever done that.....successfully.

We had one user a while back that did a complete rebuild......but I don't think he visits anymore.

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