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Old 06-10-2015, 11:31 AM   #21
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At this time I'd yank the boot from carb to airbox and start again. See if it idle dies and see if
you got a very wet carb interior when it does.
But that's just me.

And read your plug as previous post said



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Old 06-10-2015, 12:23 PM   #22
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Gas in airbox.
Once you start bike and the petcock gets vaccum to allow fuel flow you flood out....
Unless revving motor which keep the f/a mixture close enough to proper range to burn.
No gas in airbox now. Only found once I got bike home from purchase. Only mentioned in case air filter is messed up as a result.
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Old 06-10-2015, 12:25 PM   #23
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Inspect the spark plug , black =rich white=line
PO replaced spark plug because it WAS only running with choke on all the time, so was fouled. I determined that the choke plunger was hanging up and not disengaging itself, which is why I replaced the plunger and spring. I checked plug last weekend. Looks good. slightly brown/tan. Not white and pitted as though running lean. Not black and oily as though running rich.

Ill try some of your suggestions tonight.
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Old 06-10-2015, 01:16 PM   #24
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I may be wrong but it sounds like your float isn't set right.

Gas in airbox.
Once you start bike and the petcock gets vaccum to allow fuel flow you flood out....
Unless revving motor which keep the f/a mixture close enough to proper range to burn.
Good hypothesis, I do smell a lot of gas, once the bike stalls out, like when a car floods. why would it flood? float set too high? no gas coming out of over flow hose on rear/right side of carb that is connected to float bowl.
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Old 06-10-2015, 03:34 PM   #25
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Float could simply be stuck, never turning off fuel flow.



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Old 06-10-2015, 03:38 PM   #26
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If you haven't already download the service manual. Link on this web site.

On page 110, according to my pdf reader, is the needle valve inspection.
On page 111 is the float adjustment procedure.
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Old 06-10-2015, 04:17 PM   #27
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When I was rebuilding the carb, I did notice something that was odd and may have been missing. Since it wasn’t there when I took the carb apart, I ASSUMED it wasn’t supposed to be there. See the picture attached and what the arrow is pointing to. Is that the 10mm piece that threads into the carb casting itself, or does this little thing sit inside that 10mm threaded part, and the needle valve (attached to the float)just sits inside it? Needle valve seat might be the correct term for it.
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Your needle seat is missing??
Did you see threads where something was suppossed to screw in that position?

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When I was rebuilding the carb, I did notice something that was odd and may have been missing. Since it wasn’t there when I took the carb apart, I ASSUMED it wasn’t supposed to be there. See the picture attached and what the arrow is pointing to. Is that the 10mm piece that threads into the carb casting itself, or does this little thing sit inside that 10mm threaded part, and the needle valve (attached to the float)just sits inside it?
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Old 06-10-2015, 04:30 PM   #29
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Your needle seat is missing??
Did you see threads where something was suppossed to screw in that position?
Sounds like it.
The part that the valve needle seat is inserted into, the 10mm hollowed out bolt, for lack of a better term, is what the needle valve is currently resting in right now. Maybe it is the valve needle seat seat. Id send a pic of that if I had one. Sounds like I am missing something, huh?
Maybe the 13F3 carb is that different that the rest?

If this is what I am truely missing, then I must be flooding out. Wonder why the float bowl overflow is not allowing fuel to be spilling out onto the floor.
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Old 06-10-2015, 04:35 PM   #30
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Sounds like it.
The part that the valve needle seat is inserted into, the 10mm hollowed out bolt, for lack of a better term, is what the needle valve is currently resting in right now. Maybe it is the valve needle seat seat. Id send a pic of that if I had one. Sounds like I am missing something, huh?
Maybe the 13F3 carb is that different that the rest?
Carb wouldn't be different in that regard.
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