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Old 03-11-2010, 10:05 AM   #21
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Re: Question about replacing tubes with new tires

all i have to say is i would not want to try and change a tire by my self unless i owned a machine that does it. it is more than likley going ot be a ginat pain the the butt. and probably quite frustrating. make sure you have some air in the tubes when you install the tires, i remember rouning a few tubes on my bmx bike before i learned that trick. that is if you have tubes, i dont remember and dont feel like reading every thing again lol.



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Old 03-11-2010, 10:10 AM   #22
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Easy, as to whether Rookies should try to change their own tires, well, I guess it depends on a lot of things like the rookies general mechanical abilities for one thing.

Oh, yeah, Easy, the Ride-On stuff works when the tire is spinning, so I'm not sure how I could test that with the tube like you were saying. Sorry.
I absolutely agree with the first part; one needs to honestly assess your own general mechanical abilities first. A person who can't figure out how to change a watch battery, for instance, probably has no business taking a carb apart......and a person who had to practice for WEEKS before they could operate the clutch, throttle and brake at the same time probably shouldn't be changing tires....as it takes a little bit of physical coordination and finese.

People have a hard time seperating themselves from a tunnel-vision personal perspective.
A broader view of the world serves you much better.
The problem I HAVE is someone telling another person in a forum that the don't even know: Hell yes, you can do it. Go for it. If I can do it anybody can. That it pure BS.

As for the tube test.........I guess that means that there are circumstances where you would not expect it to work.....like if you got a nail and parked it soon after with the puncture stopped at the top ???
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Old 03-11-2010, 11:58 AM   #23
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I totally agree, not everyone is cut out to do everything. I spent over 25 years in the construction industry and even there a lot of the shows on TV try to convince everyone that they can tackle any and every remodeling project, and that just isn't the case. Even among professional construction workers there is a large range of capabilities, most people do their best work when they specialize in one particular area, not to say they can't do okay work in another area but as my dad used to say, "a jack of all trades is a master of none". I once commented to a job superintendent that "Ron is a great form carpenter, he really knows a lot about building forms that I never knew," his response, "Yeah, Ron is a great form carpenter, and as trim carpenters go, Ron is a great form carpenter". :lol:

The Ride on Stuff might seal a leak around a puncture object, I'm not sure, but the design idea of the stuff is that if you get a puncture, in the tread not the sidewall, and your tire goes flat, you can pull the nail, screw, whatever, out of the tire, re-inflate it and ride off and it will seal up the hole. You will probably need to stop in a few minutes and add a little more air since you probably lost a little while it was sealing. Of course, this does mean that you must have a transportable device to add air with, a bike pump, or a 12Volt plug in electric pump or a compressed air/co2 cartridge or something, with you when you get the flat.

Here's what it says on the bottle of Ride-On TPS: "SEALS PUNCTURES STOPS SLOW LEAKS: Ride-On for Motorcycles seals tread punctures from objects up to 1/4" (1/8" for tubes) in diameter, prevents flats and helps tires last longer. Ride-On TPS for Motorcycles contains corrosion inhibitors that protect aluminum and steel wheels against rust. Ride-On also helps reduce dry rot and eliminate the tiny, invisible porosity leaks that cause tires to deflate over time. Ride-On for Motorcycles SAVES YOU MONEY by increasing tire life, reducing down time, and lowering road service calls. CAUTION: Regularly inspect your tires for damage and remove penetrating objects. For Ride-On to seal a puncture, the motorcycle must be driven once an object has been removed. Ride-On TPS will seal most tread punctures from objects up to 1/4" (1/8" for tubes) in diameter, however, for safety, have tire inspected and repaired if necessary by a professional as soon as possible after a puncture occurs. In case of a cut, impact break, bruise, bulge, snag, or sidewall damage, take tire out of service and have the tire inspected by a professional tire care specialist. If a tire containing Ride-On TPS continues to lose air, take it out of service immediately."

So, yes, it's not a cure all, and it doesn't work in every situation, but it's the only product I could find that at least gives me a shot of being able to drive the bike to get help in the event of a puncture in the tread instead of walking and paying out the nose for road service. I decided that $30 was worth it to me in my situation. I've also been pleased that my tires pretty much stay inflated without having to add air to them regularly anymore and the added "perk" of a little less vibration was nice as well.



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Old 03-11-2010, 12:58 PM   #24
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I've also been pleased that my tires pretty much stay inflated without having to add air to them regularly anymore
While it can be a slightly different situation with tubeless and an imperfect bead......I have NEVER had a tube tire that I had to put air in.......any more often than wide temperature changes dictated it anyway. Or more precisely, if I DID need air, it was because there was a problem than needed to be FIXED; not just air added.

But I have seen a lot of guys say the same thing after adding "stuff" to their tubes. Either there are a lot of slow leaks out there.......or the placebo effect is coming into play again. :hide:
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Old 03-11-2010, 06:46 PM   #25
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Re: Question about replacing tubes with new tires

Before I added this to my tubes I had to put one to two pounds in every month, same with the tires on my GZ250 which also had tubes. Since I put this in, the only time I added air was, like you mentioned, when the weather got cold, and last week, I actually let out about two lbs of air, I guess the 70 degree temps factored in there, (either that or some elves are sneaking around adding air to my tires). :retard:



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Old 03-14-2010, 09:09 AM   #26
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either that or some elves are sneaking around adding air to my tires). :retard:
they do that some times. nasty little buggers.

my tires seem to hold air quite well, its not often that i need to put any air in them, kind of surprising, i had to add air to my gz quite often.
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Old 03-14-2010, 10:37 PM   #27
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Before I added this to my tubes I had to put one to two pounds in every month, same with the tires on my GZ250 which also had tubes. Since I put this in, the only time I added air was, like you mentioned, when the weather got cold, and last week, I actually let out about two lbs of air, I guess the 70 degree temps factored in there, (either that or some elves are sneaking around adding air to my tires). :retard:
I wouldn't bother letting out a couple lbs pressure. Slightly above PSI will generally extend the overall life of the tire.
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