Loud pipe for the GZ

[Dupo]

Well here's my mod for my GZ. An EMGO Turnout Muffler!

If you want your bike to make some noise, this is the mod to do. Warning: you will have to shim your needle and gain access to your mixture screw to complete this muffler change. Remember, you are going from a dime size hole to an approx 2" outlet :lol: You'll also need someone who can weld. And YOU need to not be afraid to cut off your old muffler :shock:

This muffler really makes the bike go from a put put put to a thump thump thump. Give it some well timed throttle and you can set off the preliminary 'blip blip' of car alarms in city driving. Its really got a decent big bike sound to it now and it definetly turns some heads. They see this single cylinder smaller bike but hear something bigger lol.

Its not a 'drag pipe' loudness but on the other hand its not quiet either. If you want a louder sounding bike, go for it. I'll post a HowTo as soon as i can.


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[Easy Rider]

Originally Posted by Dupo

Well here's my mod for my GZ. EMGO Turnout Muffler

If you want your bike to make some noise, this is the mod to do.

Give it some well timed throttle and you can set off the preliminary 'blip blip' of car alarms in city driving.
Its not a 'drag pipe' loudness but on the other hand its not quiet either.

Sigh! Nothing personal in this, Dupo, but I just can't let this pass witout comment.

Is it really a muffler (with real baffles) or just a chromed pipe? From your description, it sounds like an open pipe.

I'm not opposed to a bike (or a car or truck for that matter) that has a throaty rumble but when you're setting off car alarms and turning heads, IMHO you have gone WAY beyond that.

What you have done offends me BECAUSE it no doubt offends other people and contributes to giving motorcycle riders a bad rep. (and a bad rap too).

No, I take my first statement back. It IS personal. :cuss:

Loud pipes risk rights!

[El_Shorto]

Well, I'll step up in Dupo's defense here in saying that no matter what you do to a 250, it's never going to rival the sound of a Harley or big motor cruiser. It simply doesnt have the push to produce that kind of sound. Also, if you listen to the mp3 that Dupo posted of the sound after the mod, it's not that loud. Theres no way you're going to risk rights with a loud pipe on one of our bikes. Hell, I cant even hear mine when i'm sitting next to a bigger, throatier bike.

[jonathan180iq]

I don't much care for noise pollution anyway. Just because you can't hear your own bike over the person next to you doesn't mean that you should try to. It'd be much better if the person next to you felt bad for all of their "fwop fwop" and tried to quiet it down.

I can understand the desire for hearing a nice little rumble. However, that doesn't have to come at the expense of everyone else.
A simple change from an air-box to a pod filter really opens up some nice thump, not at everyone else's expense. With the new sounds being right between your legs, it even feels more substantial.

Also, not trying to copy a cliche, but it should be noted that louder pipes do not save lives. Nor, in our case, will it give you more power. I don't know about you guys but I can't tell a difference between 18HP and 19HP

Take care,
Jonathan

[Easy Rider]

Originally Posted by jonathan180iq

Also, not trying to copy a cliche, but it should be noted that louder pipes do not save lives. Nor, in our case, will it give you more power. I don't know about you guys but I can't tell a difference between 18HP and 19HP

Nope, me neither, but I sure can tell the difference between a 15 and a 16T front sprocket!
Fantastic! And not a bit noisy either. :roll:

P.S. How far are you from Atlanta?

[jonathan180iq]

North on 75 it's 88 miles.
27 miles south of Chattanooga.

[Easy Rider]

Originally Posted by jonathan180iq

North on 75 it's 88 miles.
27 miles south of Chattanooga.

Oh yea, THAT Dalton! :roll:

Pass through there often on the way to visit my daughter in Atlanta. Going again in July but plan on a bike trip this time and a different route.

[Dupo]

Sorry to those who take this personal. But this risking others rights is such bs. The only thing they CAN do is change current laws regarding how a bike is to be built. Make it harder to mod. And REALLY ... who is going to 'lose their rights' .. "all" of us? No, if it did go your way, only those with loud pipes would, so you all should really want us to be loud so that the laws get changed in your favor. They can and do have decible laws, but who really enforces it? Unless you are riding like a jackass making as much noise as possible, cops leave you alone. Hell i've gotten passed going up hill with my Spirit 750 (up hill under load with mine is insanely loud) by a cop. He didnt give me a second look. Even then, if you get robo cop pulling you over, he better have metering equipment to say i am over the limit here. And if i am not abusing my pipes, theres no reason to pull me over in the first place. Simply put, you can be loud but also responsible with it. I dont go flaunting through town trying to deafen everyone ... but out in the open country theres cows going 'WHAT??'.

I even went as far as to install big city thunder (washer on stud) baffles to keep it straight pipe sounding (yet, hot rod tone) without losing my mid range. Because thats how i think a bike should sound. Sure its not for everyone .. but it is for me.

I take offense to people telling me what i should and shouldnt be doing. I spent the 4 grand on my bike and 2 grand in upgrades and accessories to make ME happy, not you. So if you dont like my pipes ... too bad. Im not the one blazing past people full bore. Thats some other idiot who thinks they need to be loud to be noticed. My bike gets me noticed, not my loud pipes. I just happen to like it loud, when i want it to be.

This argument is never ending though, goes on and on at the one shadow forum i belong to as well. I said my peace on the subject.

[Easy Rider]

Originally Posted by Dupo

Sorry to those who take this personal. But this risking others rights is such bs. Unless you are riding like a jackass making as much noise as possible, cops leave you alone. ... but out in the open country theres cows going 'WHAT??'. .

Well, listen, it is impossible to know for sure whether you are "one of those" or not so let's assume that you are NOT. It just struck me that your original post was, in effect, saying "My bike is damn LOUD and I proud of it!". Experience tells me that riders with that attitude ARE the problem.

I can't believe that you are so dense that you don't see the cause and effect relationship at work here. If there never were loud pipes, there never would be people clammoring for more and more restrictive laws. Hard to enforce local "noise" laws, sure it is. But then the Feds made it easy; modify a bike so that is louder than stock and you are a criminal. Simple and easy. Alas, that is not enforced either.

So now we get to the part where it affects MY RIGHTS. Not willing or not able to enforce the existing laws and with more LOUD bikes hitting the streets every day, the public is now demanding and getting complete BIKE BANS in some areas. Some stick and some don't but the fact remains that if there were no ass holes with excessively loud pipes, there would be no bike bans. You think the people just don't like the color of the bikes, or the smell of the riders..........nope, they don't hate bikers, just the ones who are IN-YOUR-FACE LOUD.

No loud pipes, no lost rights. Like it or not, it IS a fact. Don't want it to be true? Me neither but it is true. Of course, nothing is ever quite that simple because other factors figure into it.......like packs of riders getting rowdy (drunk) and raising hell off the bikes, but those laws ARE enforced and very few "average" people are ever exposed to that.
What they are exposed to is the excessive NOISE.

Originally Posted by Dupo

I take offense to people telling me what i should and shouldnt be doing.

Well maybe it's going to get personal again.
Boo fricking Hoo.
Maybe you should move to Siberia, where the rest of us wouldn't bother you. :tongue:

Originally Posted by Dupo

.........but out in the open country theres cows going 'WHAT??'.

Now it gets REAL personal. I happen to live in the country, about a mile from the edge of a sizable town............just about exactly where the BadAss M-F'ers decide to see how really loud they can make them pipes beller.......all hours of the day and night. This definitely risks my right to some peace and quiet. :cuss:

And on a final note, mess with my cows all you want but you had better leave the SHEEP alone !!!! :roll:

[Dupo]

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