Multi-problemed bike (electrical + ???) - Page 3

Water Warrior 2 · 01-23-2014, 04:30 PM

It is best to have the engine warmed a bit to thin out the oil so it drains more readily. In your case I would just change it regardless of temp. That said.....when you add the new oil, fill it to the full mark with the bike upright. After you do get it started and running the level may go down. Check it after the bike has been shut off for a couple minutes to see where the actual level is.
Did you get moto specific oil? A regular car oil will not do the bike any good. Shell Rotella(diesel) will work wonderfully and one of the cheapest on the market. It has no mollifiers in it to mess up the clutch plates just like a moto specific oil. Great success in 2 of our bikes. Carry on Iffy.

ImaginativeFig · 01-23-2014, 05:00 PM

@__@ as I said before, it appears to be ATV oil. I don't even know. Should I try to return it when I go back for the battery?

Cathy · 01-23-2014, 05:09 PM

Qasual:

Gaia online was so good back then.

**jonathan180iq** · 01-23-2014, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ImaginativeFig

@__@ as I said before, it appears to be ATV oil. I don't even know.

THIS?

ImaginativeFig · 01-23-2014, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Cathy

Qasual:

Gaia online was so good back then.

I've tried to go back a few times, it's just too complicated now... There was a period of time where I'd sign in every few months to change my avi's clothes and check pm's, but it's probably been over a year since the last time

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Originally Posted by jonathan180iq

THIS?
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My bottle looks cooler, but yeah, same words n' shit.

alantf · 01-23-2014, 06:47 PM

The reason you need the oil warm to change it is just that as the oil gets warm it gets thinner, so it runs out of the drain hole quicker, and more completely.

ImaginativeFig · 01-24-2014, 09:51 PM

Got the battery back, they said it's just fine. I just checked the voltage, it's still at 12.7 V. So... it's not the battery?

I got rid of the old gas and acquired an oil pan and my friend talked me into buying a torque wrench. I almost bought some seafoam, but decided to see if it was cheaper elsewhere. Turns out it's cheaper at Target than O'Reilley's. Looked in to getting a sparkplug socket, since I recieved none of the OEM toolkit, but Action Sports (the nearby parts store/dealer) only had them for $21. Butts. O'Reilleys had a 18mm sparkplug socket for <$5, but they didn't have it in stock and I wasn't sure if it was thin walled enough to fit in our tight space...would it work?

Tomorrow I wanna go get an oil filter (is there some specific part I'm looking for or are they pretty standard?), buy some fresh gas, and see if I can get something to extract that derned sparkplug (that doesn't cost $20)

blaine · 01-24-2014, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ImaginativeFig

Got the battery back, they said it's just fine. I just checked the voltage, it's still at 12.7 V. So... it's not the battery?

It would seem that the battery is fine.I think I would be more concerned as to were the oil went or if the bike ran dry of oil which would point to a larger problem.I hope that is not the case.

Water Warrior 2 · 01-25-2014, 12:05 AM

Any parts store or small engine repair shop will likely have a HiFlo-HF136 oil in stock. Cheaper than Suzuki but they are the same. Very common in small engines.

alantf · 01-25-2014, 06:08 AM

Now that you know the battery's fine, a quick check on the charging system won't hurt. Once you get the oil into the bike (so you can start it up) put the battery back on the bike. With your voltmeter across the battery terminals, rev up to around 4000 RPM, and you should see the voltage shoot up to over 13 volts.

01-23-2014, 04:30 PM	#21
Water Warrior 2 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Squamish B.C Canada Posts: 11,409	It is best to have the engine warmed a bit to thin out the oil so it drains more readily. In your case I would just change it regardless of temp. That said.....when you add the new oil, fill it to the full mark with the bike upright. After you do get it started and running the level may go down. Check it after the bike has been shut off for a couple minutes to see where the actual level is. Did you get moto specific oil? A regular car oil will not do the bike any good. Shell Rotella(diesel) will work wonderfully and one of the cheapest on the market. It has no mollifiers in it to mess up the clutch plates just like a moto specific oil. Great success in 2 of our bikes. Carry on Iffy. Login or Register to Remove Ads
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01-23-2014, 05:00 PM	#22
ImaginativeFig Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: College Station, Texas Posts: 138	@__@ as I said before, it appears to be ATV oil. I don't even know. Should I try to return it when I go back for the battery? Last edited by ImaginativeFig; 01-23-2014 at 05:15 PM.
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01-23-2014, 05:09 PM	#23
Cathy Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Vancouver BC Posts: 157	Qasual: Gaia online was so good back then. Login or Register to Remove Ads
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01-23-2014, 06:47 PM	#26
alantf Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tenerife (Spain) Posts: 3,719	The reason you need the oil warm to change it is just that as the oil gets warm it gets thinner, so it runs out of the drain hole quicker, and more completely. __________________ By birth an Englishman, by the grace of God a Yorkshireman.
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01-24-2014, 09:51 PM	#27
ImaginativeFig Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: College Station, Texas Posts: 138	Got the battery back, they said it's just fine. I just checked the voltage, it's still at 12.7 V. So... it's not the battery? I got rid of the old gas and acquired an oil pan and my friend talked me into buying a torque wrench. I almost bought some seafoam, but decided to see if it was cheaper elsewhere. Turns out it's cheaper at Target than O'Reilley's. Looked in to getting a sparkplug socket, since I recieved none of the OEM toolkit, but Action Sports (the nearby parts store/dealer) only had them for $21. Butts. O'Reilleys had a 18mm sparkplug socket for <$5, but they didn't have it in stock and I wasn't sure if it was thin walled enough to fit in our tight space...would it work? Tomorrow I wanna go get an oil filter (is there some specific part I'm looking for or are they pretty standard?), buy some fresh gas, and see if I can get something to extract that derned sparkplug (that doesn't cost $20) Last edited by ImaginativeFig; 01-24-2014 at 11:28 PM.
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01-25-2014, 12:05 AM	#29
Water Warrior 2 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Squamish B.C Canada Posts: 11,409	Any parts store or small engine repair shop will likely have a HiFlo-HF136 oil in stock. Cheaper than Suzuki but they are the same. Very common in small engines.
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01-25-2014, 06:08 AM	#30
alantf Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tenerife (Spain) Posts: 3,719	Now that you know the battery's fine, a quick check on the charging system won't hurt. Once you get the oil into the bike (so you can start it up) put the battery back on the bike. With your voltmeter across the battery terminals, rev up to around 4000 RPM, and you should see the voltage shoot up to over 13 volts. __________________ By birth an Englishman, by the grace of God a Yorkshireman.
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