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Old 01-21-2012, 01:30 PM   #21
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From a site called metric-conversions.
I guess a 0.00266% difference is not that big in the grand scheme of things.



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Old 01-22-2012, 12:38 PM   #22
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Re: chain tension

Hey guys!

Too bad i don't have a pic, but seeing my chain i decided to check and buy a new chain.
Does any of you have experience and opinion on this chain:

http://www.wemoto.com/bikes/Suzuki/GZ_2 ... ty_X-Ring/

I believe it should fit on my 2000 gz...

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Old 01-22-2012, 12:58 PM   #23
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Re: chain tension

DID makes a good product. Probably better than OEM chains in most cases. The X-ring is a good design and better than an O-ring chain. Properly maintained it should last a long time on a GZ.



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Old 01-22-2012, 02:20 PM   #24
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Old 01-22-2012, 05:02 PM   #25
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OK, then you give me your blessing for x-ring chain kit? I must say that i'm having trouble to understand your words, cause of mine ignorance, Gz Rider...
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Instead of having to wear out a larger amount of area represented by the donut, all I have to do it wear out ONE of the smaller edges of the x-ring in order for it to fail.
Thank you very much guys, I already got an email from a seller, and he's charging 98 euros.
I'll check a store in Austria!

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Old 01-22-2012, 05:18 PM   #26
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Re: chain tension

Just this:
The seller wrote me that he has a chain set DID X-RING 520VX2. Will call him and ask if he is sure that fits to gz 250.
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Old 01-22-2012, 05:26 PM   #27
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I smell my newbiness... Feeling like a child again... (Bikemaster is a label, chain x-ring is in one piece or you put it together like o ring...) ... :?
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Old 01-22-2012, 07:42 PM   #28
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Old 01-22-2012, 09:42 PM   #29
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DID makes a good product. Probably better than OEM chains in most cases. The X-ring is a good design and better than an O-ring chain. Properly maintained it should last a long time on a GZ.
I used an x-ring from bikemaster. I have somewhere between 13-14,000 miles on it and I measured it the other day as part of regular maintenance and it is still within the 12.57 inch spec.

I don't like the x-ring concept. To me I'd rather have a donut (o-ring) than a cruller(?) (x-ring). Instead of having to wear out a larger amount of area represented by the donut, all I have to do it wear out ONE of the smaller edges of the x-ring in order for it to fail. That said, I have seen no failure of my chain or heard of anyone else complaining about them and remember, I am always at war with the "new and improved". The chain I put in was part number 194068. I paid 85.00 from the dealer in 12/2009.[/quote:2iststz1]
The idea behind the X-ring is to have two seals as apposed to one on an O-ring. I too was a sceptic until I saw a good pic and explaination of the X-ring and how it sealed with two surfaces.
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Old 01-22-2012, 09:47 PM   #30
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I apologize for my lack of clearity. I try not to dicate my opinions unless I'm absolutely sure about something. What I was doing was to give you my experience plus what I see as the pluses and minuses and you could decide for yourself. I don't see any major problem with either design.

Yes Bikemaster is a brand. I don't know if it is a respected brand or not.

The only difference I am aware of between an x-ring and an 0-ring is the shape of the washers that are built into the chain. The o-rings are like a donut. It's hard to describe the x-ring. Try this link for a pic of an x-ring:

http://catalog.precisionassoc.com/produ ... ng/x-rings

In that pic the ring has been cut so that you can understand its design.
Hah, posted while I was typing. Gives a good reason to consider the X without guessing.

The chains themselves look pretty much the same without very close examination. With both chains you will get a length of chain, a master link to connect the chain into one full peice and some grease to fill the master link during assembly.
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