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Old 09-18-2009, 07:33 PM   #11
mrlmd1
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Re: some tips to keep you from dumping the bike.

I misunderstood you - I thought you meant that when you released the back a bit and then reapplied it again a little easier, I thought you meant the clutch. You meant the brake.
But that doesn't change my main point. Everything I've been taught or have read, says in order to make a quick stop, you grab the front brake and pull in the clutch simultaneously, removing power from the rear wheel and judiciously squeeze on the brakes just avoiding a lockup of either wheel. Takes practice. I didn't say to downshift, I said to disengage the clutch - big difference.
Why would you want to fight the engine (powering the bike forward) with the rear brake if you're making a panic stop?
Why would you want to overpower the engine with the rear brake and stall it, locking up the rear wheel and forcing it to skid?
Neither of those make any sense. The stopping distance is a lot shorter if no skidding. The stopping distance is a lot shorter with the clutch disengaged. It takes the same reaction time to pull in both levers.

If there is power to the rear wheel and you lock it up so it skids momentarily in a slide out to the side and the engine has power engaged, if the wheel regains traction, you risk a high side crash. Also makes no sense. This can't happen with the clutch disengaged. When you get out of the skid or slide and you get straightened out, then you can release the clutch again and drive straight ahead.
The only reason you didn't have a high side is because maybe you kept the bike going straight ahead and/or the engine stalled so the rear wheel never regained traction.
I'm done with this thread - anybody else want to chime in?

Everyone says that if you lock the rear and skid that tire, stay on the brake 'till you stop. .Do not release it or a high side may result. Or 'till you at least get the bike back in a perfectly straight line if that's possible, and going slower, before releasing the brake.

We are also talking semantics here - locking up the wheel so that it can't rotate, is one thing. Locking up the wheel so it loses traction and skids is another thing. Either way, what we are talking about, what I am talking about, is the rear tire losing traction and skidding. If you are skidding, stay on the rear brake, keep the clutch pulled in. Do not allow the rear wheel to regain traction with power applied. Very simple.

Maybe you ride differently than everybody else by not pulling in the clutch in a panic stop, but lets talk the same language.



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