need engine help now

strn365 · 08-05-2008, 12:10 AM

Ok guys here is the deal. Just went on a short cruise. Pulled in at a gas station to get a drink. When i shut the engine off it made two definatly loud clanking metal noises and stopped. It will not start again i believe the motor is trash. Sounds lke it came apart inside. Cant tell right now well because it is dark pulled the starter it is definatly good. still makes a clanking noise when it does turn over. Need a new or remanufactured engine. Or this will be the end of my gz what a sad day.

SO yeah guys help please. Dont want to go to the honda shop tomorrow and buy something different. Unfortunatly i have a bad feeling it is going to be more expensive to buy a new motor than just buy a new bike.

bigwonton · 08-05-2008, 12:44 AM

How's the oil level?

strn365 · 08-05-2008, 09:17 AM

still full just like always thought that myself last night but like always it is full. My sister who was riding behind me in another bike said it didnt smoke or do anything out of the ordinary.

**jonathan180iq** · 08-05-2008, 09:46 AM

What kind of oil and, I have to ask, how are you checking the sight glass? With the bike on the side stand or with the bike upright?

Drain the oil and see what comes out. Check the oil filter for bits of metal.

Remove your gas tank and open the vavle cover (2 10mm bolts). Make sure your valves look like they should and aren't broken.
Pull the spark plug and shine a light down into the cylinder head to see if anything looks messed up.
Make sure your clutch operates properly and see if you can shift through the gears.

If whatever your problem is is any deeper in the engine than that, then you will probably have to either rebuild or replace.

strn365 · 08-05-2008, 10:52 AM

Using mobile 1 full syn. 10w-40. Checking the oil with the bike in the full upright postion.
I will check the rest when i get back home. ie the oil and the oil filter.
thank you

Graydog · 08-06-2008, 11:05 PM

Any results yet?

Sarris · 08-06-2008, 11:27 PM

Before you assume it's internal, you might check that the generator has not come apart. This is known to ocassionally happen on GZ's and although not real cheap to fix, it's definately cheaper than a motor or a new bike. Check the service manual, you'll have to pull off the generator cover on the left side of the engine to check it.

Hopin' you don't need an engine.

:sad:

strn365 · 08-07-2008, 11:22 AM

Well it looks as if the engine has dropped an exhaust valve. But not a whole lot of major damage has been done since it fell out when i stopped the engine. So looks like i will be doing the top end of the motor. Yay for me right yeah not. Does any one want pics on the process of how do do it if god forbid this happen to anyone else. Oh yeah i decide to buy a new bike went out and bought me a 2006 suzuki katana 750. So i am going to give the gz to the gf so she can start learning how to ride.

**jonathan180iq** · 08-07-2008, 04:17 PM

It just failed? Wow.

Yeah pics of the process would be great.

Sorry so short.

Brian Donofrio · 11-03-2008, 10:51 PM

Yeah my 2007 torpedo'd at full throttle 75 in a rain storm. I'll post some pictures. about a year latter I have rebuilt it and my GZ is back on the road.

08-05-2008, 12:10 AM	#1
strn365 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 27	need engine help now Ok guys here is the deal. Just went on a short cruise. Pulled in at a gas station to get a drink. When i shut the engine off it made two definatly loud clanking metal noises and stopped. It will not start again i believe the motor is trash. Sounds lke it came apart inside. Cant tell right now well because it is dark pulled the starter it is definatly good. still makes a clanking noise when it does turn over. Need a new or remanufactured engine. Or this will be the end of my gz what a sad day. SO yeah guys help please. Dont want to go to the honda shop tomorrow and buy something different. Unfortunatly i have a bad feeling it is going to be more expensive to buy a new motor than just buy a new bike. __________________ yep fun stuff Login or Register to Remove Ads
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08-05-2008, 09:17 AM	#3
strn365 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 27	engine help still full just like always thought that myself last night but like always it is full. My sister who was riding behind me in another bike said it didnt smoke or do anything out of the ordinary. __________________ yep fun stuff Login or Register to Remove Ads
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08-05-2008, 10:52 AM	#5
strn365 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 27	engine help Using mobile 1 full syn. 10w-40. Checking the oil with the bike in the full upright postion. I will check the rest when i get back home. ie the oil and the oil filter. thank you __________________ yep fun stuff Login or Register to Remove Ads
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08-06-2008, 11:05 PM	#6
Graydog Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Central Arkansas Posts: 123	Any results yet? __________________ Whither is fled the visionary gleam? Where is it now, the glory and the dream?
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08-06-2008, 11:27 PM	#7
Sarris Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: New Port Richey, Florida USA Posts: 1,348	Noise Before you assume it's internal, you might check that the generator has not come apart. This is known to ocassionally happen on GZ's and although not real cheap to fix, it's definately cheaper than a motor or a new bike. Check the service manual, you'll have to pull off the generator cover on the left side of the engine to check it. Hopin' you don't need an engine. :sad: __________________ Prudent riders live longer than moron riders.
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08-05-2008, 12:44 AM	#2
bigwonton Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 90	How's the oil level?
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08-05-2008, 09:46 AM	#4
jonathan180iq Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Dalton, GA Posts: 3,996	What kind of oil and, I have to ask, how are you checking the sight glass? With the bike on the side stand or with the bike upright? Drain the oil and see what comes out. Check the oil filter for bits of metal. Remove your gas tank and open the vavle cover (2 10mm bolts). Make sure your valves look like they should and aren't broken. Pull the spark plug and shine a light down into the cylinder head to see if anything looks messed up. Make sure your clutch operates properly and see if you can shift through the gears. If whatever your problem is is any deeper in the engine than that, then you will probably have to either rebuild or replace.
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08-07-2008, 11:22 AM	#8
strn365 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 27	engine help Well it looks as if the engine has dropped an exhaust valve. But not a whole lot of major damage has been done since it fell out when i stopped the engine. So looks like i will be doing the top end of the motor. Yay for me right yeah not. Does any one want pics on the process of how do do it if god forbid this happen to anyone else. Oh yeah i decide to buy a new bike went out and bought me a 2006 suzuki katana 750. So i am going to give the gz to the gf so she can start learning how to ride. __________________ yep fun stuff
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08-07-2008, 04:17 PM	#9
jonathan180iq Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Dalton, GA Posts: 3,996	It just failed? Wow. Yeah pics of the process would be great. Sorry so short.
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11-03-2008, 10:51 PM	#10
Brian Donofrio Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Change me!!!! Posts: 14	Re: need engine help now Yeah my 2007 torpedo'd at full throttle 75 in a rain storm. I'll post some pictures. about a year latter I have rebuilt it and my GZ is back on the road.
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