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Old 08-02-2012, 01:02 AM   #61
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Re: Problems related?

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Progress today, but also a BIG screwup.
I got the head cover off. What a damn fight getting clearance to get it out!
But, it is out.
Found a piece of one stem between the springs.
But where I screwed up is in removing the bolts. As always, I loosened all bolts,
then went along putting them in a Baggy so they don't get lost.
What I didn't notice was that they are different lengths! And the manual
neither tells you anywhere, or let you know which lengths go where.
Stupid on my part. Guess I'll have to guess where they belong,
unless when I get replacement parts I'll see if the dealership can (will?)
help me out. Couldn't find anything in the archives here.
I thought I was in the same hot water when I removed the clutch cover (despite having read the warning on an excellent post about it) and didn't note which size bolt went where. However, the parts microfiche you can download here showed me where each different bolt should go. Whew! Thanks GZ forum! First, for all the great posts on how to do stuff and then all the encouragement. I do have a "mistakes made" post I need to write about that repair though...UGH! :retard:
Thanks, I'll try that. I always use the parts fiche from the dealer, but the one they have doesn't show where the different lengths go. I shows where 'a' bolt goes, but doesn't show the length that goes there.



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Old 08-02-2012, 01:09 AM   #62
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Progress today, but also a BIG screwup.
I got the head cover off. What a damn fight getting clearance to get it out!
But, it is out.
Found a piece of one stem between the springs.
But where I screwed up is in removing the bolts. As always, I loosened all bolts,
then went along putting them in a Baggy so they don't get lost.
What I didn't notice was that they are different lengths! And the manual
neither tells you anywhere, or let you know which lengths go where.
Stupid on my part. Guess I'll have to guess where they belong,
unless when I get replacement parts I'll see if the dealership can (will?)
help me out. Couldn't find anything in the archives here.
I thought I was in the same hot water when I removed the clutch cover (despite having read the warning on an excellent post about it) and didn't note which size bolt went where. However, the parts microfiche you can download here showed me where each different bolt should go. Whew! Thanks GZ forum! First, for all the great posts on how to do stuff and then all the encouragement. I do have a "mistakes made" post I need to write about that repair though...UGH! :retard:
Well, thanks for the 'try', but that fiche doesn't list the lengths either.
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Old 08-02-2012, 06:34 AM   #63
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Is it possible to just use a zip tie to determine the depth of the bolt holes and then compare the bolt lengths?



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Old 08-02-2012, 10:26 AM   #64
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I was going to suggest something along those lines.

I know it's hindsight and doesn't need to be said, but because manufacturers just love making bolts 1,000 different lengths, I always carry a spare piece of cardboard outside with me when I'm working on something new or taking something apart for the first time. Just punch the bolts/screws whatever into the cardboard and make yourself a note for orientation.



I used to just lay things out in proper order on a table. But I'm really bad about turning around when I'm in a hurry and knocking or bumping something and throwing that all out of whack.
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Old 08-02-2012, 02:39 PM   #65
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Is it possible to just use a zip tie to determine the depth of the bolt holes and then compare the bolt lengths?
I never thought of that! Either zip ties or those bamboo skewers you use on the grill,
they wouldn't bend as easily.
Thanks. I'll try it this evening.



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Old 08-02-2012, 02:45 PM   #66
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I was going to suggest something along those lines.

I know it's hindsight and doesn't need to be said, but because manufacturers just love making bolts 1,000 different lengths, I always carry a spare piece of cardboard outside with me when I'm working on something new or taking something apart for the first time. Just punch the bolts/screws whatever into the cardboard and make yourself a note for orientation.



I used to just lay things out in proper order on a table. But I'm really bad about turning around when I'm in a hurry and knocking or bumping something and throwing that all out of whack.
That's a great idea, I used to do that myself, a long time ago.
Sometimes age brings you wisdom, but sometimes makes you forget
some of the things that helped so much in tthe past.
Thanks, I'll start doing that again.
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Is it possible to just use a zip tie to determine the depth of the bolt holes and then compare the bolt lengths?

Not much to report. Had to clean up a bit after the storms, neighbor was worried his kid would get hurt by tree that got knocked over.

So, I had enough time to lock pushrod for the cam chain tension adjuster, then spent a few minutes trying to understand what they meant by 'remove the 'cam chain tension adjuster'!
The image is so poor that you can't tell if it is the smaller piece or the bigger piece that that one sits in. I decided to go for the larger of the two (held by two hex-key bolts.
Then I found out that I no longer have any Metric hex-keys. And by then it was too late to drive to a hardware or tool store.
Unless, of course, someone tells me that I am about to remove the wrong piece!
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Old 08-06-2012, 12:26 AM   #68
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Well, to make a short story even shorter:
Got the Metric hex keys on Friday, finished the job shortly after.
Ordering parts, gaskets, sealers on Monday.
Should only take an hour or two to have the bike running after they come in.
Thanks for all the info, help, advice, and laughs.
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Sounds great. You must be a far better mechanic than I will ever be.
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Sounds great. You must be a far better mechanic than I will ever be.
I doubt it.
But, I do learn quickly when others help.
And I learned something when ordering the parts I need. With bolts, the length of the bolt is
part of the part number! Look at the last three digits of the bolt part number,
ignore the last digit. The two digits BEFORE the last are the length. Or so they say. I'll verify that when I reassemble.
The parts won't be in until the end of the week.
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