brakes squeel

geezer · 05-14-2011, 02:52 PM

so when i hit the front brake i get a loud nasty squeel. i told my girlfriend she was just gonn a have to deal with it but now its bugging me too! i figured it was pads so i swapped em out and its still doing it. is this a gz thing? or can it be fixed?

blaine · 05-14-2011, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by geezer

so when i hit the front brake i get a loud nasty squeel. i told my girlfriend she was just gonn a have to deal with it but now its bugging me too! i figured it was pads so i swapped em out and its still doing it. is this a gz thing? or can it be fixed?

Some aftermarket pads are notorious for squealing because of the material they are made from.Do you have the anti-squeal shim installed between the back of the pad and the caliber?

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geezer · 05-14-2011, 03:33 PM

no, and it did this with the old pads too. so let me guess that shim doesnt come with the pads like they do with car pads? so i have to get that off suzuki?

blaine · 05-14-2011, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by geezer

no, and it did this with the old pads too. so let me guess that shim doesnt come with the pads like they do with car pads? so i have to get that off suzuki?

The shim doesn't come with the pads.Sometimes people throw them away,not realizing what they are.Also make sure the caliber can slide freely on the bolts,and not sticking.

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geezer · 05-14-2011, 08:42 PM

your always ther for me ma dude! :2tup:

tcrave · 05-26-2011, 12:12 PM

I'm having the same problem. The pads look like they have plenty of life left in them. Is that anti-squeal shim that you are talking about just that metal plating that is usually behind the brake pad that you usually put grease on? It wouldn't surprise me if those are gone on mine considering the people I bought it from. Nice people, but didn't seem the least bit worried about the small stuff/details. Thanks for the tip!

Also, by back brakes have just started squealing too...could it be the same problem for front and back?

mrlmd1 · 05-26-2011, 02:33 PM

The rear brake is a drum, the front a disc. Does either brake squeal if you just roll the bike without applying the brake? Do the wheels spin freely or are the brakes grabbing a little?
I have seen both on a bike and my SO's Mazda Miata where a small pebble or stone can get stuck in under the pad and make a squealing/scraping noise. If you get it out, it stops.

alantf · 05-26-2011, 03:27 PM

I was watching the mechanic fit new pads on my bike last week (labour is so cheap over here that I can't be bothered getting my hands dirty

) I noticed that there were no anti squeal shims fitted. Thing is - I've never had squealing front brakes, so I wonder if some geezers don't need 'em? :??:

blaine · 05-26-2011, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tcrave

I'm having the same problem. The pads look like they have plenty of life left in them. Is that anti-squeal shim that you are talking about just that metal plating that is usually behind the brake pad that you usually put grease on?

Yes, that is the plate I'm talking about.A lot of the time,they get discarded,and you don't get new ones with new pads.Your rear brakes squealing is a totally different thing,because they are drum brakes.Some people never have a problem with pads squealing,depending on the brand of pads,and the surface of the brake rotor.

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Water Warrior 2 · 05-26-2011, 10:46 PM

Very hard brake lining and pads will be more apt to squeal and not stop as well. Softer material generally works better with more rapid wear. Some of the aftermarket stuff is longer wearing and still returns better braking.
Sqealing(in my experience)is caused mostly by the brake material getting glazed. What I have done in the past is to remove the brake shoe and brake pads and give them a very light sand blasting. A little emery cloth to clean up the rear brake drum itself does fine. Never used emery cloth on front discs but I don't think it would hurt them. Someday I will try it.

05-14-2011, 02:52 PM	#1
geezer Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: dahlonega GA Posts: 563	brakes squeel so when i hit the front brake i get a loud nasty squeel. i told my girlfriend she was just gonn a have to deal with it but now its bugging me too! i figured it was pads so i swapped em out and its still doing it. is this a gz thing? or can it be fixed? __________________ 99 gz 250 and a currently dismantled fzr 1000 Login or Register to Remove Ads
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05-14-2011, 03:33 PM	#3
geezer Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: dahlonega GA Posts: 563	Re: brakes squeel no, and it did this with the old pads too. so let me guess that shim doesnt come with the pads like they do with car pads? so i have to get that off suzuki? __________________ 99 gz 250 and a currently dismantled fzr 1000 Login or Register to Remove Ads
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05-14-2011, 08:42 PM	#5
geezer Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: dahlonega GA Posts: 563	Re: brakes squeel your always ther for me ma dude! :2tup: __________________ 99 gz 250 and a currently dismantled fzr 1000 Login or Register to Remove Ads
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05-26-2011, 12:12 PM	#6
tcrave Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Cape Girardeau, MO Posts: 90	Re: brakes squeel I'm having the same problem. The pads look like they have plenty of life left in them. Is that anti-squeal shim that you are talking about just that metal plating that is usually behind the brake pad that you usually put grease on? It wouldn't surprise me if those are gone on mine considering the people I bought it from. Nice people, but didn't seem the least bit worried about the small stuff/details. Thanks for the tip! Also, by back brakes have just started squealing too...could it be the same problem for front and back?
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05-26-2011, 02:33 PM	#7
mrlmd1 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Crawfordville, Florida Posts: 2,853	Re: brakes squeel The rear brake is a drum, the front a disc. Does either brake squeal if you just roll the bike without applying the brake? Do the wheels spin freely or are the brakes grabbing a little? I have seen both on a bike and my SO's Mazda Miata where a small pebble or stone can get stuck in under the pad and make a squealing/scraping noise. If you get it out, it stops.
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05-26-2011, 03:27 PM	#8
alantf Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tenerife (Spain) Posts: 3,719	Re: brakes squeel I was watching the mechanic fit new pads on my bike last week (labour is so cheap over here that I can't be bothered getting my hands dirty ) I noticed that there were no anti squeal shims fitted. Thing is - I've never had squealing front brakes, so I wonder if some geezers don't need 'em? :??: __________________ By birth an Englishman, by the grace of God a Yorkshireman.
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05-26-2011, 10:46 PM	#10
Water Warrior 2 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Squamish B.C Canada Posts: 11,409	Re: brakes squeel Very hard brake lining and pads will be more apt to squeal and not stop as well. Softer material generally works better with more rapid wear. Some of the aftermarket stuff is longer wearing and still returns better braking. Sqealing(in my experience)is caused mostly by the brake material getting glazed. What I have done in the past is to remove the brake shoe and brake pads and give them a very light sand blasting. A little emery cloth to clean up the rear brake drum itself does fine. Never used emery cloth on front discs but I don't think it would hurt them. Someday I will try it.
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