starting problem

[adrianinflorida]

It looks emissions related, but isn't shown on the parts diagrams from here on the site. Maybe some sort of breather or PCV valve on the Euro bikes and not on the US or Califonia bikes.

[music man]

We don't have that gadget on our bikes, or at least no one that i know of does.

[patrick_777]

I think it's this...

[adrianinflorida]

I think the evap cannister sits down near the sidestand. The item on Alan's bike looks almost like an EGR or PCV valve of some sort.

[patrick_777]

I was more concentrating on the top part. The canister itself does sit near the back, but there is a vertical bracket in that picture as well where the fuel lines are all running through.

I've never actually been in physical proximity of a CA or Euro-spec GZ, so this is all wild speculation anyway.

[alantf]

Sorry to disillusion you guys, but that's nothing whatsoever like the thing on my bike. I can see where the cannister sits under the bike (I've got the bracket, not the cannister) & it's nowhere near there. What gets me is that there are two pipes around 1/2" diameter attached to the gadget. One goes to the front/bottom of the engine where I'd expect oil, not air, to be. The gadget itself is like.....well......... 2 pocket watches pushed face to face, with the petcock pipe attached to the middle of the back of one, while the other two pipes are attached to the other "watch", one to the back & the other to the bottom. Unfortunately it's real awkward to get a camera in amongst the rest of the pipework/wiring to get a close up shot, & without taking the tank off, I can't see where the other pipe goes.

[alantf]

I've managed to get some photos of the doodah. Sorry they're not very good, but couldn't find macro on my wife's camera (if macro even exists on it) When I asked her if the camera had macro, all I got was a blank look & the comment "uh?" Typical woman - just points it in the general direction & presses the little thingummy on the top. If anything other than a blurry coloured thingy appears on the screen it's a miracle. Anyway - back to the important bit............










This photo shows the two large diameter pipes that come from the doodah, & show where one of them is attached to the pipe that goes to the front of the engine




This is the pipe that one of the pipes is attached to (the one behind the exhaust pipe)

[adrianinflorida]

Judging by how that pipe is coming out of the top of the crankcase, I'd be even more inclined to say that the item in question is a PCV (Crankcase ventillation) type valve. Must be something they put on the Euro spec bikes, not the US or California bikes. Hell, the service manual doesn't even mention it. I'll look at my paper manuual tonight, it has all of the addendums through 2007 in the back, maybe something there talks about it.

[Water Warrior 2]

Can't remember ever seeing that on a Canadian GZ. Probably is the PCV system for cleaner air/European specs.

[adrianinflorida]

I emailed the pics to a buddy at the local Suzuki dealer, he has no idea either, he'll try to track down some info from the Eurpean Marauder parts fiche, if they have one on hand.