Change handlebar and turn signal swap Questions

beefjerky · 02-26-2014, 12:40 PM

Hi

I have been reading a few threads and doing some searches, but not seen exactly what I am looking for; a few things!

I hope someone can tell me how to remove the grips to reuse on new handlebars? They must be stuck on with some adhesive bond as they don't seem to budge.

The new bars are half the height of the stock ones; I guess I will know when I get there but should I be concerned with having cables too long?

With the indicators, I am replacing stock with these
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OXFORD-MIN...-/181302914556

Would I be OK to clip off the 2 wires on the stock signal before they go to the bulb unit and connect in to those new ones at the connector?

Thanks for any help or links to existing discussions!

Water Warrior 2 · 02-26-2014, 04:12 PM

Are you planning on putting those signals on the front? If so you might not like to do that. The stock front signals have a 2 element bulb. That gives you running lights and signals. The new ones may provide for signals only. That may not be legal in some areas of the world. They would however be satisfactory as rear signals.
Keep in mind the flasher may not work as well if at all if the new lights do not draw the required amount of electricity to make it function. If the new signal lights are LED's then the power draw will be minimal and likely will cause the flasher to flash quickly and for a shorter period of flash time making it harder for others to notice the signal. You could however install an electronic flasher that is not dependant on the amount of power draw.
Alantf can tell you which wires to hook a new electronic flasher to control the signals. They are relatively cheap and available at most auto stores.

As for the added length of controls with lower bars don't worry too much. Just take up the extra slack at various points of the bike to spread it out. Make sure everything is secure and not in a position to catch on something accidently.

beefjerky · 02-26-2014, 04:30 PM

The new ones have a 2 element bulb also, just looking at them here, but I had seen the electronic flasher and it is cheap alright so if this happens i know where to get it, thanks for confirming that.

Thats good advice about the cables, ill check eveything is tidy and safe.

Would you have any thoughts on the grips removal?

beefjerky · 02-26-2014, 05:48 PM

Sweet found a video explaining it there.

Small tip screwdriver under a bit of the grip, wd40, repeat!

Water Warrior 2 · 02-27-2014, 03:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beefjerky

Sweet found a video explaining it there.

Small tip screwdriver under a bit of the grip, wd40, repeat!

I used an old antique ice pick which will reach in further and has a fairly large wooden handle for grip.

beefjerky · 02-27-2014, 06:52 AM

No problem getting the grip and controls off the clutch side, but when I went to do the throttle side, there was one screw that just would not budge... tried a few times with the short Phillips head and was afraid I would strip it, so I went and got a much longer screwdriver and 1st go stripped the head a bit... dammit!

Technique to try now is the flat head screwdriver with a rubber band, this is the limit of my tool box at the moment for dealing with this problem.
I applied WD40 3 and 2 hours ago, hopefully that will help me out too!

Water Warrior 2 · 02-27-2014, 10:02 PM

Try this with your best fitting screw driver. Tap on the head of the screw driver handle while applying turning force to the driver. Sort of a poor man's impact driver. Try both directions to see if it will break loose. If that does not work, beg, borrow or buy an impact driver for your tool box. It will be one of the least used tools you own but very precious when you need it. They are cheap and last a lifetime.

02-26-2014, 12:40 PM	#1
beefjerky Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 42	Change handlebar and turn signal swap Questions Hi I have been reading a few threads and doing some searches, but not seen exactly what I am looking for; a few things! I hope someone can tell me how to remove the grips to reuse on new handlebars? They must be stuck on with some adhesive bond as they don't seem to budge. The new bars are half the height of the stock ones; I guess I will know when I get there but should I be concerned with having cables too long? With the indicators, I am replacing stock with these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OXFORD-MIN...-/181302914556 Would I be OK to clip off the 2 wires on the stock signal before they go to the bulb unit and connect in to those new ones at the connector? Thanks for any help or links to existing discussions! Login or Register to Remove Ads
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02-26-2014, 04:30 PM	#3
beefjerky Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 42	The new ones have a 2 element bulb also, just looking at them here, but I had seen the electronic flasher and it is cheap alright so if this happens i know where to get it, thanks for confirming that. Thats good advice about the cables, ill check eveything is tidy and safe. Would you have any thoughts on the grips removal? Login or Register to Remove Ads
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02-27-2014, 06:52 AM	#6
beefjerky Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 42	No problem getting the grip and controls off the clutch side, but when I went to do the throttle side, there was one screw that just would not budge... tried a few times with the short Phillips head and was afraid I would strip it, so I went and got a much longer screwdriver and 1st go stripped the head a bit... dammit! Technique to try now is the flat head screwdriver with a rubber band, this is the limit of my tool box at the moment for dealing with this problem. I applied WD40 3 and 2 hours ago, hopefully that will help me out too! Last edited by beefjerky; 02-27-2014 at 07:18 AM.
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02-26-2014, 04:12 PM	#2
Water Warrior 2 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Squamish B.C Canada Posts: 11,409	Are you planning on putting those signals on the front? If so you might not like to do that. The stock front signals have a 2 element bulb. That gives you running lights and signals. The new ones may provide for signals only. That may not be legal in some areas of the world. They would however be satisfactory as rear signals. Keep in mind the flasher may not work as well if at all if the new lights do not draw the required amount of electricity to make it function. If the new signal lights are LED's then the power draw will be minimal and likely will cause the flasher to flash quickly and for a shorter period of flash time making it harder for others to notice the signal. You could however install an electronic flasher that is not dependant on the amount of power draw. Alantf can tell you which wires to hook a new electronic flasher to control the signals. They are relatively cheap and available at most auto stores. As for the added length of controls with lower bars don't worry too much. Just take up the extra slack at various points of the bike to spread it out. Make sure everything is secure and not in a position to catch on something accidently.
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02-26-2014, 05:48 PM	#4
beefjerky Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 42	Sweet found a video explaining it there. Small tip screwdriver under a bit of the grip, wd40, repeat!
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02-27-2014, 10:02 PM	#7
Water Warrior 2 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Squamish B.C Canada Posts: 11,409	Try this with your best fitting screw driver. Tap on the head of the screw driver handle while applying turning force to the driver. Sort of a poor man's impact driver. Try both directions to see if it will break loose. If that does not work, beg, borrow or buy an impact driver for your tool box. It will be one of the least used tools you own but very precious when you need it. They are cheap and last a lifetime.
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