[quote=Easy Rider][quote=alantf][quote="Fish Baseball":2fwrrbsf] but with the angled up pipe on the GZ it makes it essential to have the supports.[/quote]
Not so!
It all depends how stiff the bags are. [/quote]
Unless you bend the supports out like wings (NOT recommended), they have little or nothing to do with the pipe clearance.
The supports are designed to keep the bags OFF OF the rear wheel and spokes. That is VERY important......but like Alan said, if your bags are the proper size AND you locate them carefully, the supports MAY not be needed. Thinking about what might happen if the bags get into the rear spokes.........I don't think I would want to chance it.[/quote:2fwrrbsf]
I dunno, my bags are damned stiff ones, reinforced with a steel plate at the bottom....by me of course after reading and re-reading the forums here, but I found that bags that where small enough to not need the supports didn't have enough volume in them to hold what i need to take.
I tried these...
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and while yes they did not even come close to the pipe, they didn't hold enough stuff. (work gear, tools, ipod, phone, laptop, lunch etc)
when the bags i ended up with hang too low (sit on the pipe kinda low) without the supports.
So maybe i should have said it depends on what you need to carry, but I personally found them to be needed. :2tup:
And it also scares the living poopoo's out of me to consider getting anything caught in the spokes while moving.