[patrick_777]

I got these pants in today and they fit a little tighter for the size, say maybe 1/2" and are a 32 inseam. The stretch panels are very nice but the removable knee "armor" is soft and really very flat and will need to be broken in/shaped by wear. The denim is not as thick as I had hoped. It's about the weight of normal Levis. Given that, I doubt it would hold up to much of an asphalt-slide, maybe cement parking lot, but definitely not highway asphalt.

They fit well while sitting on the either bike (sport or cruiser) riding position, and allow for a lot of movement in the knees and waist. The flex panels breath well and if you look at the enlarged pics on the site, they wrap from outside the knees, inside the thigh and across the groin giving a nice flowing breeze "down there", if you know what I mean -- and I think you do.

So far I like them enough that I have ordered 2 more pair. At less than $40 each, they seem to be a good deal, if even just for a pair of comfortable jeans to wear riding to the store and back.