K&N air filters
 

i was reading about K&N filters, haven't used before. thinking of trying on my car and bike (if possible) but i got scared when i read some reviews that said that K&N filters use oil and this oil sometime leaks and go in to the MFC (or something like that) and damage that sensor and because air get more clean it put more stress on engine and the eigine wears out faster (this is more worrying). the oil leaking may not happen in all cases.

so the same can happen in bikes as well, more stress on already stressed GZ engine. any first hand opinions from those who use K&N filters in cars. is it good for a new car or just changing the stock filter more frequently is better.

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Well whoever is complaining about the filter oil leaking are probably putting too much oil on the filter.

I run a K&N on my shadow in the hypercharger. I've never had a trace of oil anywhere it shouldnt be. The oil is just a spray that turns sticky kinda like our chain lubes. You spray it on the outside of the filter to trap dirt particles.

I think K&N Filters are great ... not to mention you don't have to replace them. Just wash out, let dry and re-spray.

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And what about the rejetting or other adjustments as others have reported on here to keep the bike running right due to the different air flow through the K&N?

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The rejetting and all that is a whole other conversation, But dupo is right, A K&N will not get oil anywhere unless you had it dripping when you put it in there :??: , and I have used one in a few different cars I have had, and they work excellent, as for putting one on the GZ, I have no idea what kind of carb issues you might have to resolve with that.

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EXCEPT for a bike like the GZ.....that is designed to use the restriction of the stock air filter to achieve the right fuel mixture. :skull:

Anyone who wants to see how your GZ will run with a K&N filter, just take the stock filter element OUT and go for a little ride. Don't venture out into traffic, though, because it runs like crap and you will get run over. :shocked: :crash:

Summary: A stock GZ 250 will NOT do good with a K&N filter.....or any other one that changes the intake restriction.

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oh, i did not know that we spray the oil outside, thats why i was wondering how the oil leaks. and please explain the second part. for the cars or bike does the more or cleaner air puts more stress on engine or eats it away earlier than recommended time period?

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The cleaner the air the better off you are, dirt is the enemy of your engine, ANY ENGINE.

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ALL are designed to use the restriction of the stock air filter, GZ or other. Changing an air filter doesn't necessarily mean you have to rejet. Changing pipes and air filter .. now you're talking. K&N should really only need a carb adj at best.

But, thats what tinkering and customizing is all about. You want one, you tinker, you learn.

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ALL are designed to use the restriction of the stock air filter, GZ or other. Changing an air filter doesn't necessarily mean you have to rejet. Changing pipes and air filter .. now you're talking. K&N should really only need a carb adj at best.

Pulling off the air filter completely is creating a free flow of air, unlike having a K&N. If that were the case, why sell em lol. K&N lets more air in but still maintains some restriction. So i wouldn't say thats a good comparison.

But, thats what tinkering and customizing is all about. You want one, you tinker, you learn.

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Gz250,

It's not the clean air that makes a carbueratted bike run like crap, it's the higher volume (amount) of air.
In a car, the computer and the fuel injection system automatically compensates for the increase in air flow.
In any carbeuratted machine, the ability to flow gasoline is controlled by little pin-hole openings in what are called "jets" and in the height of the needle.
If you increase the amount of air that goes into an engine without also increasing the amount of fuel, then you will have a "lean" mixture and your vehicle and it will not run properly.

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Where you been Jonathan? We've missed you. How's the scoot?

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I've been around. Patrick wrote me a sappy love e-mail basically begging me to come back... :cool:
So, here I am.

The scoots working fine. We had a period of rain that basically didn't stop for almost a month. So I've been almost exclusively in the Saab lately. Now that the rain has stopped we're seeing temperatures around 12 degrees F. Needless to say, I'm still in the car. Sucks.

Thanks for the welcome.

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I'm sure glad you didn't mention the "personal" pictures I sent along with that email...

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:puke:

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There's nothing more beautiful than a special "love" between two grown men....


:facepalm:

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oh, i did not apperceive that we aerosol the oil outside, that's why i was apprehensive how the oil leaks. and amuse explain the additional part. for the cars or bike does the added or cleaner air puts added accent on engine or eats it abroad beforehand than recommended time period? Pulling off the air clarify absolutely is creating a changeless breeze of air, clashing accepting a K&N. If that were the case, why advertise em lol. K&N lets added air in but still maintains some restriction. So i wouldn't say that's a acceptable comparison.

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the only reason a k&m filter is red is because the oil you spray on it is red. it will not leak any oil ever unless you spray crap loads of oil in the filter only spray enough to lightly coat the filter with oil, when you buy the filter its already sprayed with oil so your good on that till you need to wash it.

the k&n has bigger holes in it. if you do not spray it with the oil the dirt will not stick to the filter and more dirt will get threw to the enigne. the k&n filter is a great product if properly oiled.

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The K&N filters I have used came oiled and will last thousands of miles. When you want to clean the filter you buy their cleaning solution along with the red oil. When clean spray lightly with the oil. Filter in a car is suppose to last 100,000 miles. In a car I have noticed minimum improvement in performance unless you have a ram induction system. Think it is the ram air induction and not the filter that gave me a good boost in performance. (On a 2002 Corvette)

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just a air filter alone will barley give you any performance gains. it will but not much. the most i notice is a vehicle seems to run just a tad bit smoother after i stick a k&n in there. thats about all it does on a car unless like mentioned you get the whole system and than you will feel a slight bit of preformance increase, not sure how one of these filters react when you put one in a bike but they do last for ever so if your gonna have that bike a long time its worth buying one.

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[Edit] Guess this is a repeat of my post from last November!

On an unmodified North American model GZ, it will actually make your performance MUCH worse.....because the bike will run WAY lean. You can see the effect by running without any air filter for a couple of minutes. Don't get out in traffic though! :shocked:

Bikes designed for other parts of the world are not quite as lean from the factory so the difference might not be as much.

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it was already mentioned that you would need to adjust the carb or get a new jet when putting a k&n filter on a gz.