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Water Warrior 2 05-16-2009 12:17 PM
Re: Shoulda kept the GZ.....sigh
 
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Originally Posted by alantf
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Originally Posted by Water Warrior
use your hi-beam during the day
Sorry, I just can't agree with you on that point! Everytime I've come across someone riding/driving on high beam, I've had to turn my head away so they don't blind me. All this means is that I am then not watching what they're doing. It's also the same when someone comes up behind me with high beam. It shines straight in my mirrors & makes it uncomfortable for me to drive. All high beam does for me is piss me off. If the idiots can't see low beam, they sure as hell can't see high beam either. :??: O_o
It appears that we will just have to agree to disagree on this particular idea.

alantf 05-16-2009 12:26 PM
Re: Shoulda kept the GZ.....sigh
 
hey easy,when I say "rear fog lights", I don't mean white fog lights (like on the front of the car) These are an extra red light at the rear (usually, one each side) that have a 21w bulb (as opposed to the normal 7w rear light) & are meant to be used when visibility is low, such as in fog or falling snow, to make the vehicle more visible from the rear. They're fitted as standard in England & Spain. I didn't know they weren't used in America.Most other countries seem to think that they add to road safety.

dannylightning 05-16-2009 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by spuriousgrowth
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Well done. You were looking for yourself and for her because she was too busy multitasking. As many riders will say "Ride like you are invisible". If don't already do it, use your hi-beam during the day because the GZ is a pretty small visual target to home in on. A single headlight gives other drivers a poor depth perception but at least they might notice you.
My wife has commuted for about two years on a Vino 125 through some busy streets in downtown Oakland and Berkeley. Some people, what ever they're on, feel like they have to go around her because she is on a 'little' scooter regardless of speed. She also makes a smaller target than the GZ, and so people are constantly not seeing her. What I've picked up from her experience is that basically, watch everyone pulling out, changing lanes and generally asserting themselves in her comfort zone and hit the horn if they look like they're thinking about doing something stupid. There are some real dill holes out there who get a wounded pride at being beeped at by a small woman on a scooter, but that's what lane splitting and the CVT transmission are for (taking off from stoplights).

One of these days I'm going to replace the stock horn with one that has a little bit more bite.
im not sure how you would hook up the air compressor but you need a train horn on that thing, that would do the job for sure and it would be cool

dannylightning 05-16-2009 01:08 PM
Re: Shoulda kept the GZ.....sigh
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by alantf
Quote:
Originally Posted by Water Warrior
use your hi-beam during the day
Sorry, I just can't agree with you on that point! Everytime I've come across someone riding/driving on high beam, I've had to turn my head away so they don't blind me. All this means is that I am then not watching what they're doing. It's also the same when someone comes up behind me with high beam. It shines straight in my mirrors & makes it uncomfortable for me to drive. All high beam does for me is piss me off. If the idiots can't see low beam, they sure as hell can't see high beam either. :??: O_o

if a high beam blinds you in the day time i think something may be wrong with your eyes!

5th_bike 05-17-2009 01:28 AM
Re: Shoulda kept the GZ.....sigh
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by alantf
hey easy,when I say "rear fog lights", I don't mean white fog lights (like on the front of the car) These are an extra red light at the rear (usually, one each side) that have a 21w bulb (as opposed to the normal 7w rear light) & are meant to be used when visibility is low, such as in fog or falling snow, to make the vehicle more visible from the rear. They're fitted as standard in England & Spain. I didn't know they weren't used in America.Most other countries seem to think that they add to road safety.
Americans are so not used to rear fog lights. If they use them (they only come on some European cars) they often forget about them and leave them on for days after they're needed. They also switch them on when they're not needed, like when it just rains, or it's a little hazy and the visibility is a quarter mile. And do you think those Americans will ever understand a little high beam flash in their rear view mirror, which in Europe either means "move over" (on the left lane of a multi-lane highway) or "your fog light is on" (anywhere else) ?... (hint: the answer to this question has two letters).

Water Warrior 2 05-17-2009 03:31 AM
Re: Shoulda kept the GZ.....sigh
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by spuriousgrowth
Quote:
Well done. You were looking for yourself and for her because she was too busy multitasking. As many riders will say "Ride like you are invisible". If don't already do it, use your hi-beam during the day because the GZ is a pretty small visual target to home in on. A single headlight gives other drivers a poor depth perception but at least they might notice you.
My wife has commuted for about two years on a Vino 125 through some busy streets in downtown Oakland and Berkeley. Some people, what ever they're on, feel like they have to go around her because she is on a 'little' scooter regardless of speed. She also makes a smaller target than the GZ, and so people are constantly not seeing her. What I've picked up from her experience is that basically, watch everyone pulling out, changing lanes and generally asserting themselves in her comfort zone and hit the horn if they look like they're thinking about doing something stupid. There are some real dill holes out there who get a wounded pride at being beeped at by a small woman on a scooter, but that's what lane splitting and the CVT transmission are for (taking off from stoplights).

One of these days I'm going to replace the stock horn with one that has a little bit more bite.
Just add a Stebel air horn. They work well and are not out of this world price wise. Just go to California Sport Touring.Inc and take a look. Both our bikes have an air horn. 139 db loud.

adrianinflorida 05-17-2009 09:28 AM
Re: Shoulda kept the GZ.....sigh
 
The rear fogs on my SAAB are in the innermost tail light lens on either side of the license plate). They always default to 'off' whenever you start the car, so they can only be left on as long as the car is running. They are in between the intensity of a tail light and brake light. They're also good to turn on/off real quick when someone is tailgating you, without having to brake check the idiot.

Easy Rider 05-17-2009 09:52 AM
Re: Shoulda kept the GZ.....sigh
 
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Originally Posted by Water Warrior
Just add a Stebel air horn.
I think you might be in danger of blowing the main fuse on a Vino 125 with a Stebel !! :shocked:

They do draw a fair amount of current.

Easy Rider 05-17-2009 09:54 AM
Re: Shoulda kept the GZ.....sigh
 
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Originally Posted by adrianinflorida
They're also good to turn on/off real quick when someone is tailgating you, without having to brake check the idiot.
The 4-way flashers work good for that too.

Water Warrior 2 05-17-2009 05:18 PM
Re: Shoulda kept the GZ.....sigh
 
[quote=Easy Rider]
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Originally Posted by "Water Warrior":1oqhzr5x
Just add a Stebel air horn.
I think you might be in danger of blowing the main fuse on a Vino 125 with a Stebel !! :shocked:

They do draw a fair amount of current.[/quote:1oqhzr5x]

Give it it's own fuse and power up with a relay.


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