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It appears that we will just have to agree to disagree on this particular idea.

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hey easy,when I say "rear fog lights", I don't mean white fog lights (like on the front of the car) These are an extra red light at the rear (usually, one each side) that have a 21w bulb (as opposed to the normal 7w rear light) & are meant to be used when visibility is low, such as in fog or falling snow, to make the vehicle more visible from the rear. They're fitted as standard in England & Spain. I didn't know they weren't used in America.Most other countries seem to think that they add to road safety.

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im not sure how you would hook up the air compressor but you need a train horn on that thing, that would do the job for sure and it would be cool

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if a high beam blinds you in the day time i think something may be wrong with your eyes!

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Americans are so not used to rear fog lights. If they use them (they only come on some European cars) they often forget about them and leave them on for days after they're needed. They also switch them on when they're not needed, like when it just rains, or it's a little hazy and the visibility is a quarter mile. And do you think those Americans will ever understand a little high beam flash in their rear view mirror, which in Europe either means "move over" (on the left lane of a multi-lane highway) or "your fog light is on" (anywhere else) ?... (hint: the answer to this question has two letters).

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Just add a Stebel air horn. They work well and are not out of this world price wise. Just go to California Sport Touring.Inc and take a look. Both our bikes have an air horn. 139 db loud.

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The rear fogs on my SAAB are in the innermost tail light lens on either side of the license plate). They always default to 'off' whenever you start the car, so they can only be left on as long as the car is running. They are in between the intensity of a tail light and brake light. They're also good to turn on/off real quick when someone is tailgating you, without having to brake check the idiot.

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I think you might be in danger of blowing the main fuse on a Vino 125 with a Stebel !! :shocked:

They do draw a fair amount of current.

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The 4-way flashers work good for that too.

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[quote=Easy Rider]I think you might be in danger of blowing the main fuse on a Vino 125 with a Stebel !! :shocked:

They do draw a fair amount of current.[/quote:1oqhzr5x]

Give it it's own fuse and power up with a relay.

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OK, sometimes subtle just doesn't register......... :roll:

The Stebel draws a LOT of power, something like 12 amps/ 150 watts, IIRC.
On a TINY little scooter, that might smoke the battery AND the alternator.
Is SOUNDS like a funny idea but might turn out to be anything BUT funny. :cry:

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There is only one way to find out. Any volunteers out there with scooters.

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to hell with blowing up the battery what about blowing out your ears, 130 db is about as loud as a jet taking off. i don't know if any of you have ever stood by a jet engine but i do every day. when they taxi in with the engine at low power the noise is excessive. if you are really close to it like the guys that guide in the jet you are required to have earplugs and earmuffs. at take off speed (130+ db.) the noise is way more than excessive.

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The noise from the horn is mostly directed forward, it's on briefly for second or two, and is meant as a warning to alert others around you who may not be aware of where you are. The standard horn on the bike is almost useless to be heard by someone in a car or truck with the windows shut, the AC and radio on or on a cell phone. It's a safety device and IMHO well worth it, and plan to get one. It's cheap insurance.

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NOT wanting to start a fight and even not really disagreeing with you, necessarily, but isn't this interesting. A person who is RABID about helmet wearing to protect your head now seems to have kind of a blind spot when it comes to protecting your HEARING. :shocked: :biggrin:

There ARE other alternatives that are louder than stock but not loud enough to shake the fillings out of your teeth !! You may be right that judicious use won't do any permanent damage but with a ~40% loss in one ear already, I don't think I would want to chance it.

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"A person who is RABID about helmet wearing to protect your head now seems to have kind of a blind spot when it comes to protecting your HEARING. :shocked: :biggrin:"

This is one of those sentences discussing 2 things that are unrelated and attributing something to me I never stated or implied. The two statements do not have any relationship linking them together - there is no connection between wearing a helmet and a blind spot to protecting hearing. If anything, if you're on the bike with the helmet on, face shield in place, and the horn blast is directed forward, you are not getting anywhere near 139db directed at your own ears. There is considerable muffling of sound with a good fitting helmet, and even if it did give you you a painful or temporarily injurious blast, IMHO that's better than getting hit or run over by a car by someone not aware of your presence. So wearing a helmet can actually protect your ears from the blast of the horn, I don't really care a crap about the ears of anyone in the car who's about to hit me, and I seriously doubt they also get anywhere near 139db. That sound is measured standing right in front of the horn, not far away, not through a car window, not sitting on the bike in back of it with the helmet on.
So if you were to get one of those horns, then you'd be better off with the helmet on too, right?
And if they were deemed by any "authority" to be too loud or causing injury, would they be legal? It's OK for a truck to have one, but not a car or motorcycle? It's a friggin' safety device, just like the helmet.

And if it did bother your ears for the second or two of the blast, I'd take that any day rather than broken bones or worse, or a wrecked bike.

You want to continue this, add something? I'm not wanting to start again either but here we can go again. :whistle:

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:yawn:

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:haha2: :yes: :tup: :curse:

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Not just no but HELL no.
I should have known better.
My bad.

I could say......nope, won't do it.
Then there is.....nope, won't do that either.

Choke, choke......gasp.....damn this is HARD !!! :skull:

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:itsokay: I knew you wouldn't have the balls... :twisted:

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As entertaining as it sometimes gets to watch you guys duke it out, I think I'd prefer to watch the fights on ESPN not here. Good to see you can all walk away from this without it escalating. Personally, I think Mrlmd1 and Easy Rider both have some really good things to say on these forums and I like their kinda "edgy" personalities and I really don't want to see them get banned or anything cause I'd like them to be around to hand out more good advice from their experiences riding and working on bikes. I'm not saying that they shouldn't argue a point, that I like! They both bring different perspectives to issues and it's good to see those sides presented, even when they get a "little" edgy, just not to the point it got to a while back where they quit talking much about the issues and started just bashing each other. Well, I'm probably gonna catch some bashing from somebody just for writing this, but I wanted to put my two cents worth in, so If I get bashed I guess I can take it.

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The Stebel air horn is loud no doubt about it. Wearing a helmet and hearing protection softens the "Blow" quite a bit. Cagers are too well insulated and need a real wake up sometimes. The Stebel will also change the direction of a bear cub trying to cross the road. Good thing too, cause if I'd hit him and gone down Mama Bear would get even for hurting her baby.

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Hey now ! We all have our opinions and speak out. Easy and I have agreed to disagree many times without coming to blows or bloodshed. Insults are just a bit unnecessary here, we are not children we are adults with big toys and proud of them.

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[quote=Water Warrior]Hey now ! We all have our opinions and speak out. Easy and I have agreed to disagree many times without coming to blows or bloodshed. Insults are just a bit unnecessary here, we are not children we are adults with big toys and proud of them.[/quote:1ejqgvof]


If you paid any attention at all, you'd know it wasn't an insult, and wasn't possibly taken that way by Easy.

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I was paying attention and read something I wouldn't have the balls to put into print. Sounded just a little too crude for a family show. Maybe we should just chalk this one up to the generation gap rearing it's ugly head.

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This is a "family show"? Since when is a motorcycle forum on the Internet a "family" anything? Have you seen the Internet lately? Is there anything family-friendly left on here?

Do we need a rating on the bottom? I ask because that can be arranged pretty quickly.

Before this gets out of hand, I apologize for the "balls" remark.

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Apology accepted and a handshake included..............Internet and Family Friendly does sound like Military Intelligence but I find this great little forum one of the most friendly and polite. I would not have any fear if kids were reading here.

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[quote=Water Warrior]Apology accepted and a handshake included..............Internet and Family Friendly does sound like Military Intelligence but I find this great little forum one of the most friendly and polite. I would not have any fear if kids were reading here.[/quote:2t1okhu1]

kids have dirty filthy mouths by the age of 8 these days, by the age or 12 or 13 there doing things kids that age should never do.. it's too late to protect the kiddy's.. they learn all the bad and nasty stuff at school from their friends and this site is like the pope compared to most of the disgusting crap on the net that is only a push of a button away.

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We have an "understanding". Others apparently don't understand. Their loss.

Kiss, kiss !! :neener:

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I only apologized to WW. You still don't have the balls.