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Chris, stop creating new threads about this topic.

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I'm not sure I understand who Patrick 777 is. Are you the Adminstrator for this board? Who owns this board? I have to have someone's permission to put up a post? This is not poronography or anything, this is a small motorcycle board. Why do I need anyones permission to put up a post?? Is this your job? Who do you work for?
Everyone is history that has owned a motorcycle has wondered how fast it would go. The advantage of a small bike is the top speeds are not really all that fast. A crotch rocket would go 150mph and I would never attempt that, but on a small bike I think this is safe. I'm the guy on the board that talks about safety all the time.
If you don't feel like discussing this in public then email to

miller1155@bellsouth.net

Chris, Atlanta

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YES! 'Nuf said. If you had been paying attention, you would know that. There is even a little TAG under his name at the top of every post !!

YOU need to cool your jets a bit, Sir.

Generally it is not good to have multiple threads about the same subject.

P.S. Some of us here tend to be a little more blunt than is necessary at times.....me included....Patrick ???? :poke2:

Even Admin's are not perfect. :shocked:

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I think Patrick posted this after Chris started a whole new thread last night for his new speed record. Patrick mereley moved it to Chris' existing land speed record thread and asked Chris not to start a new thread for each 2/10s of a MPH improvement he achieves in the quest for the title of Worlds Fastest Atlantan. :)

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Ah HA! I thought something was out of place.....but the short term memory isn't what it used to be. Think I will go back and edit my post ........back to what it was before I got squeemish and changed it !!! :roll:

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Yes.

For matters like this....Me.

Posting here is a privilege, not a right.

This is a moderated board.

Posting here is a privilege, not a right.
This is a moderated board.

Yes.

Work is subjective.

And you've created 4 threads on the exact same subject, two of which are active.

No thanks...and I already had your email address.

Patrick, NOT retired in Tulsa

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Yes, I merged the topics. Nice catch.

Speed Record for the GZ250
 

It strikes me as odd that it is a secret about who owns this board. And the employment of who monitors the board.

The users don't know and can't find out? Why is that? I'm not suggesting a problem, but usually when you ask a question you get an answer.
I've taken the forefront on safety, maintenance, safe riding, fun cruises, and getting high gas mileage. Some guys have used bad language, bad habits, and incorrect information. Some have even posted notes and pictures on bikes that are nothing like a GZ250.
So I ran my bike up to 79mph and I'm being censored?

Chris, retired experienced rider near Atlanta

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Chris, you're making more out of this than is necessary. I think Dupo started the board, that would make him the 'owner', and the mods keep things in order. Too many new threads about a similar subject tend to slow things down on the back end of the fourm and get sloppy. You weren't being censored, merely corrected on posting ettiquite.

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Walk softly and carry a big shtick... no worries Chris! Personally I didn't notice you had posted more than one thread with this subject, but it is easier for everyone to keep track of one thread than four, so Patrick was just doing his maintainance and mentioned he would rather everyone follow the protocol is all.

BTW Chris, have you seen "The Fastest Indian"? Great Movie!

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All the information you asked for IS and HAS BEEN available in the posts on here for a LONG time.

The fact that you seem to be too dense or too lazy to look for it would tend to indicate that you don't REALLY want to know the answers but are just asking to stir up crap.

The person who uses a handle of Dupo is the actual owner. He drops by from time to time......and posts things about his new bike......that is NOT a GZ.

Hate to say this, Chris, but everybody else seems to be OK with how things are run around here; if you aren't OK with it, you are welcome to leave at any time. If you feel you must cop an attitude, please do it elsewhere. :popcorn:

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First of all you are the only person that seems not to know who "owns" this board, Dupo as far as I know started it, and then Had Badbob come in and start helping out with the site, then He got Patrick on board, And if you look right up under Patrick or Dupo's Name on their posts (and Badbob too) it says ADMIN!!!!

And Everyone else that has chimed in is correct, you OBVIOUSLY didn't read what Patrick posted when he moved yet another thread you started about the top speed of a/your GZ.

All he said was and I quote "Chris, stop creating new threads about this topic." Do you really call that being censored? And not only that how did he censor you, He didn't even erase your new post, He just merged it with one of YOUR OWN other threads about the exact same thing.

Chill out Dude


Tony, Chillin In Arkansas

P.S. I wrote this before I read Easy's post, he beat me to the submit button.

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You guys ALL need to chill.....

because *I* broke that record today! 80 solid miles per hour, on a flat piece of slab with 0 wind. Booyah!

edit: well, i was drafting a bit. :tongue:

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Hello Mr. Softie,
I did see The Fastest Indian and enjoyed it also. Amazing that the guy lived through all that Bonneville stuff.
Going back 30 years...have you seen "On Any Sunday"? It is about the half mile flat track guys doing 80mph sideways in the dirt. Great movie. In fact, since I am on Netflix, I think I will order it and watch it again.
What other motorcycle movies are there besides the Hells Angels type. This is a good place to list good motorcycle movies.
Changed my oil yesterday. I get the filters on ebay (about $15 for three as opposed to $12 each at the dealer) and they come, with free shipping, right to my mailbox. I use 5-20wt synthetic oil, by the way. I change every 3000 miles (just turned 6000 miles) and it sure came out dirty. If it is that dirty again I may go to a 2000 mile oil change. It is easy and fast to do. I guess the filter and the oil cost about $12 so that is not much to extend the life of my bike. However the GZ250 is well known to be a very long life engine.
After my new top speed record, now I will go for the gas mileage record. I am getting about 75mpg and think I could top 80mpg with easy driving. What mileage are you guys getting? I drive so easy that in my cars I EXCEED the EPA mileage number. My Corolla is rated at 35mpg and I get 40!

Chris, Atlanta

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That actually WOULD make a good thread topic.

:chop:

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Your dealer charges you 12 dollars for an oil filter, man you are getting :curse:, i pay like 5 bucks after tax at the suzuki shop for mine.

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And they're like $2 from Bike Bandit plus maybe $2 for shipping, plus they have great service.

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I hope that is a typo. The top number should NOT be less than 40 for an air cooled engine in Georgia. It would be too thin to give good protection when HOT. This is reflected in the recommendations in the owner's manual. Also with the first number being 5, you need to check the label carefully to be sure it doesn't say "energy conserving". Exactly what brand and type of oil are you using ??

You don't need to worry because your oil comes out LOOKING dirty. That is mostly discoloration from heat and occurs with many oils in the first few hundred miles or so. The dark color is especially pronounced with some synthetics and does NOT mean that the oil is dirty or worn out.
Every 3K miles is PLENTY with the proper synthetic.

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I remember a movie with Barry Sheene in the early 80's, some of the racing scenes were cool, but there were a bunch of goofy dream sequnences and stuff. Now I gotta go look it up.

On edit....
Spaceriders
http://www.amazon.com/Space-Riders-Barr ... B00000F68V

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i'm courious what gas and windshield you guys are useing. beacouse last week my friend and I went down I-70 norm traffic there is like 75 or so and I was passing stuff left and right when we got back to town my friend said i was pushing 90 mph.
i cant really say for sure sence my speedo is not right reads slow and i never hit 75 on it. i was running on sheel 91 gas with nitrigon additive and a ss-10 viper windshield. i am about 150 lbs. and sorry for the spelling

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I just can't shake the feeling that this post has a distinctive "troll-ish" quality about it. :skull:

Now to see what that 2nd post is that this new user has left. :roll:

[Edit] OK, so maybe he is legit.
All I have to say at the moment is: Phoenix, new buddy, that little thumper was NOT made to run at speeds like that (not for long anyway). If you don't want it to BLOW UP, slow down a bit.

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About 50% of I-70 between CO and UT is VERY downhill. I could hit 60 on it on my bicycle. I'd like to know how fast he went UP the summit climbs.

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yeah i know was just trying to find out why or how i was going so fast. weather the gas or the windshield. everytime befor that day i could only maybe go like 65 if i'm lucky, depending on how 5th wanted to act that day.
and on the exact speed i cant tell ya my speed do was saying around 73=75 or so. but i know i wa passing everything in site and my friend on his honda aero said i was pulling from him at 85.

that was a one time thing i know not to do it again. And i know it may sound like BS but its for real.

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A little knowledge and my opinion here. First, the GZ has a very accurate speedo in comparison to most other bikes I have read about. If it says 75 then you are closer to an actual 75 than the next guy. This is somewhat varified by my VStrom speedo which is very generous and then checking it against a GPS when I was able to get one. I doubt Suzuki had 90 MPH in mind when designing the GZ so don't do it again. Oh just remembered. Welcome to the forum.

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One factor that is easily missed is tailwinds. Basically, if you have 20 mph tailwind, you can almost add 20mph onto your top end. You won't notice it, because at 80, you are still generating 60 mphs of headwind, but, you will REALLY notice it when you turn around. This is a lesson I learned the hard way on bicycle rides where the effect is even more pronounced. A big mistake newb bicycle riders make is to go 50 miles with a strong tailwind, thinking they have suddenly become Superman overnight, and then when they turn around to go home, realize they have kryptonite under the seat.

Were you perhaps going EAST on I-70?

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On that day i was heading west and if i rember right there was a little bit of side wind. if i got any wind reduction it would have been from drafting.

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Downhill with a 30 mph tail wind might get you 75. I think your "friend" was pulling your chain. :roll:

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I hate these speed threads, but to be fair, I can get near 75 out of mine on the flats (with maybe a little tiny tailwind.) I weigh about 180 at the moment (and headed higher.) This is with a windshield. I used to get near 75 w/o a windshield when sticking my face on the speedo. I think under ideal circumstances, (downhill with tailwind), I would be able to hit 85. Although, given the light weightness of the thing, I'd probably not try to go that fast.

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I love these speed threads because I can brag about how fast my GZ is compared to other more sluggish examples. While my top speed has dropped since I put the 16 tooth sprocket on, I can still cruise at 70-75 fairly easily. I was doing it today on Route 30 for miles and touching 80 now and then. Of course that is riding flat out. The trick for me is keeping the rpm's up. I weigh 230lbs with my gear on, and am using a spitfire windshield and saddlebags

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Ditto.

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I have a LARGE windshield and a 16T. I probably could do that too........given good conditions and a LONG time to get there but I have found some uncomfortable noises and/or vibrations above 65 so I don't go there often. I don't have a feeling that it is too light at those speeds but maybe part of that is the large angled shield keeping it firmly planted on the road.

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i dont think my friend was messing with me. if a man than has 70 lbs on me can go 75 easy and hit 80 sometimes its verry possible that i may have hit 85-90.

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I don't think anybody is saying it is impossible......but a LOT of us are saying it is highly unlikely, for a sustained distance, given all the evidence we have collectively accumulated........including but not limited to the fact that the speedometer seems to be very accurate (if it is not broken).

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Got my GZ up to 77 going downhill between Atlanta and Chattnooga, probably the same hill Easy Rider got his up to 80 on. I'm 6' 1'' and 210 and I just have the stock sprockets no modifications. I also did this before I changed the exhaust and adjusted the carb, but I don't think my top end has changed any from those things, I just seem to be able to maintain my speed on the hills a lot better than before, but no faster overall.
As to the GPS stuff, I've borrowed one a couple of times for the car, one got me off the highway and sent me through downtown St. Louis, about 15 stops and turns and a lot of wasted time later it brought me back up on the same highway one exit ahead of where it told me to exit. The other time I was in Kerrville, Texas and it told me to "turn right now" which would have put me into a cement wall, so I ignored it! The actual place to turn right was about 2 miles further up the road. I guess they were okay, but hey, reading a map is not that hard, and seems to be more accurate to me and they definitely cost less!

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Burkbuilds, you have to spend some time playing with a GPS. Best is to stay on roads you know and monitor how the GPS instructs you. They have many options that you are probably unaware of at this time. We have a cheapie that successfully gets us from point A to point B every time.

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My GPS proves the GZ speedometer is quite accurate. Any speed notice should be on the flat with no wind. A rock can go fast downhill behind a truck with a tailwind
But 90mph??? I don't think so.
I just love my GPS because I often cruise way out in the county on the Georgia backroads. I am never lost, of course, but am often confused, as the famous explorer, Kit Carson, used to say. Of course, I don't read the GPS while riding, but to me not having one on rides would be silly. My first one ( a Magellen) recently died, so I just bought my second one, a Garmin.

Chris, Atlanta

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Question:
What does the 16 tooth mod do? Does it lower the gears or raise them?
Why do it? My GZ is stock and the gearing just seems perfect to me.
I can't imagine the 200+ pound guys spending money to lower the rpms. They (OK, we) need more rpms, not less. You'll never overrev todays motorcycles in anything but 1st or 2nd.

Chris, retired, Atlanta
12th bike

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The 16 tooth raises the effective gear ratio. First gear in particular is longer and will get you comfortably through intersections without a second gear upshift. The bike cruises easier at 60 to 65 MPH. Theoretically it should have more top end with the 16 tooth, but the motor runs out of torque before you get there. I find the bike runs a bit more "relaxed" with the 16 tooth.

There must be a rideability fine line at the 15 to 16 tooth point, as I think Suzuki could have gone either way. Also remember that one front tooth = 4 +/- rear teeth, so you could split hairs if the correct sprockets were available.

It's cheap to do. Some like it, others don't.

:)

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The 16t makes the bike real smooth in all the gears.

It raises the speeds in each gear.

5th gear was quite buzzy on mine above 65 mph , now it is smooth.

I can pull from 35 to WOT in 5th , no problem.

Today I got gas at one of the few real gas (not blended) stations that is on a freeway.

I ran 80+ on the way over and 85+ coming back. There was a little more left in the throttle.

Jerry

PS last fillup 3.277 gals @199 miles =60726274mpg
my average is 66-67 mpg.
This was he trip following the 1200cc Kaw. thru the mountains.

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If you have read the recommendations for the 16T sprocket......which I'm sure I have posted AT LEAST 5 times in varioius threads and others have mentioned too.......you would know that, yes, it raises the gearing so you don't have to "race" it so much in the lower gears. The price you pay for that is a " wash out" of the top end in 5th gear.

NOT recommended for: Large loads, 2-up, Interstates or areas where there are a lot of tall hills.
So it would appear that your analysis is correct. :tup:

In general, it makes it feel a little "zippier" in 1-4 and anemic in 5th.