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bonehead 07-29-2009 02:26 PM

Re: Pushing on the pegs to help you lean
 
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Originally Posted by Easy Rider
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Originally Posted by mrlmd1
Like Mr. Softie said, it's all connected, each move interacts with all the others to lean the bike and balance all the forces involved.

Good show. Summed it all up in one sentence.
Now why didn't I think of that.......... :shocked:


Old farts' club, 'member?

Water Warrior 2 07-29-2009 05:12 PM

Re: Pushing on the pegs to help you lean
 
Boy, glad that is pretty much over. AND WE ARE ALL STILL FRIENDS....BONUS.

Easy Rider 07-29-2009 05:16 PM

Re: Pushing on the pegs to help you lean
 
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Originally Posted by bonehead
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Originally Posted by Easy Rider
Good show. Summed it all up in one sentence.
Now why didn't I think of that.......... :shocked:

Old farts' club, 'member?

Who....ME? Naw, can't be. :neener:
Passed that a couple of years back; now I am a grouchy old fart. :cool:

Larry in Arkansas 08-02-2009 08:26 PM

Re: Pushing on the pegs to help you lean
 
Jer,
Please look at the following video for the Keith Code Superbike School. Kind of an interesting video because it shows how leaning or weighting pegs will effect vehicle direction and also show how effective countersteering is. http://www.superbikeschool.com/machiner ... achine.php
As their seems to be a lot of misinformation on the internet, I would also encourage you to sign up for the BRC provided by the MSF. You can obtain information and training locations from http://www.msf-usa.org/
If you only have 600 miles under your belt, you probably haven't developed any bad habits that will be difficult to break at this point.
As a way of introduction, I am a MSF Rider Coach and recently purchased one of the GZ250 range bikes for my wife to practice and continue her training as she recently completed the BRC.

mrlmd1 08-02-2009 10:48 PM

Re: Pushing on the pegs to help you lean
 
I've seen that video before but forgot where to find it. That shows without a doubt that countersteering accounts for virtually all the steering input on most bikes, and that shifting body weight or peg weight does almost nothing except on some off-road dirt bikes which have different geometry.
As was said before, by putting weight on a peg you may actually be pulling a little on the opposite handlebar, causing the bike to lean a little. We don't have bikes with 2 handlebars set up like the one in the video, so you don't really know what you are doing when you stand on a peg or lean over.
Regardless of whether you can get the bike to lean a fraction or not by shifting peg weight or leaning your body, without countersteering that effect is minimal and insignificant as was proved in that video.


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