Can't get the cylinder head cover off...

[schooler94]

I took out all the bolts and hit it with a plastic maallet and I can't get the cylinder head cover off... I called the shop that had it and they said the blue stuff is just silicone and it should pop right off as long as nothing is still secured. Did I miss something?

[Water Warrior 2]

There are 12 bolts holding the cover on. Did you remove all of them? Go to Ronayers.Com for their fiche section and a good picture/parts info.

[schooler94]

Yup I got 12... thanks

[Water Warrior 2]

Schooler94, just keep all the ducks in a row and avoid jumping all over the forum could you continue the parting out/repairing on one thread only. I'm an old guy and get dizzy easily. Pic a thread and we will follow you.

[schooler94]

Alright, sorry. And I got the cover off... I was playing with the screws that go into the valves and I think I messed something up and it popped off

[schooler94]

Finally got the head off, I tried the water thing that Blaine mentioned in another post to see if the valves were leaking, and they're not... but the mechanic told me the valve clearance kept going to zero after he set it (not really sure what that means). I don't want to have to spend $100 on the tools to remove the valves though if I don't even know that will fix my problems...

[schooler94]

It would be $250 for 4 valves, 4 springs, 4 new tappets and nuts that go into the valve rocker arm, and the tools... The only thing is that I'm not sure that would even fix my problems...

[blaine]

I would let the machine shop have a look.They will tell you if valves/seats are good before they check for squareness.
:) :cool:

[Water Warrior 2]

Just a thought. Do a good visual inspection of the piston and cylinder walls to see if there is any signs of damage or unexpected wear. My next idea would be to have the machine shop check the head for warpage. You need to gather as much info as possible before commiting to a bunch more money.
I'm starting to wonder if the Shop mechanic knew how to actually set the valves.

[schooler94]

Alright I'll probably take it to a machine shop tomorrow if they're open staurdays, if not then next week. Will they check the valves though? And my piston head is kind of charred, as are the valves, and the head is a little warped. I used a straight edge across the head and a lot of light is showing underneath, so apparently the mechanic didn't do a very good job sanding it down. I'll try to post some pics right now

[Water Warrior 2]

The charred look is just a carbon build up. Yup, the head looks some warped. Let the machine shop at er.

[schooler94]

Alright, hopefully they fix it! and hopefully they can check the valves too because it's like 2 days work to take the thing apart! So I don't want to have to redo anything haha

[Water Warrior 2]

We have our fingers crossed for a successful fix.

[schooler94]

Is the carbon build up bad?

[blaine]

Is the carbon build up bad?
No.Can be gently cleaned off.just be careful not to scratch up the block to head mating surfaces.
:) :cool:

[Road_Clam]

. but the mechanic told me the valve clearance kept going to zero after he set it (not really sure what that means). .

I don't know how this is happening either... especially wrenching from a supposed industry "mechanic".

I just pulled the top end off my wife's GZ to replace the valve seals, and setting the valve clearences a fairly straight forward procedure. Suzuki is one of the most user friendly valvetrains to set valve lash. Most other mfg's use precision shims under the cam to adjust, and this shim method is expensive and a PIA !

[raul10141964]

1. you nead to remove the head gasket to check the head
2. is better to use a metal straight edge

[blaine]

. but the mechanic told me the valve clearance kept going to zero after he set it (not really sure what that means). .

I don't know how this is happening either... especially wrenching from a supposed industry "mechanic".

I just pulled the top end off my wife's GZ to replace the valve seals, and setting the valve clearences a fairly straight forward procedure. Suzuki is one of the most user friendly valvetrains to set valve lash. Most other mfg's use precision shims under the cam to adjust, and this shim method is expensive and a PIA !
Only time I ever seen this is when the valves sink into the seats & you can't get any clearance to adjust.This is not common & was a problem on Kawasaki twin's from not adjusting the valves & they just keep getting tighter & tighter till the bike wouldn't start.
:cry: :cool:

[schooler94]

I took off the head gasket and used the wooden end of the ruler, and apparently the metal end isn't that straight because the wooden end seemed to be pretty flush with the head all the way around :(

[blaine]

I took off the head gasket and used the wooden end of the ruler, and apparently the metal end isn't that straight because the wooden end seemed to be pretty flush with the head all the way around :(
They will check it before they plane it,so they know how much to remove to make it flat.
:) :cool: