Future GZ250..very soon..

[vikz250]

hello guys just wanted to say hi ! I am very close to owning a brand new one 2009 GZ250, most probably mid march but now I'm kinda feeling a little nervous about this. I have never riden any kind of motorcycle besides a scooter back in the 80's, I ride all kinds of bicycle, from road bikes to mountain bikes but this motorized thing is a whole new thing for me.I am planning on enrolling to one of those motorcycle schools so I can get my license and at thesame time get used to it, any words of encouragement will be nice..

here is the GZ250 I am considering ..I could have pulled the trigger today but I wanted to be very sure, it wont be to much a month ($58!! + 11 insurance no down no interest for 5yrs!!)..
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o175/vikz07/iphone4s006.jpg

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o175/vikz07/iphone4s005.jpg

[Water Warrior 2]

Words of encouragement !!!!!!!!!!!!! Yippee for you. Glad to have you join us here. Your riding class will be a lot of fun believe it or not. Also pick up a copy of Proficient Motorcycling by David Hough. It is the bible of motorcycling.
Your experience on bicycles will help a lot too.
Did you set enough $ aside for proper safety gear ? A T-shirt and jeans won't cut it if you fall even at low speeds. Check out your local shop for riding gear that fits comfy and be willing to wear it every time you are out riding. It is a good habit to get into. You can buy stuff cheaper on line but you need to do a few test fits first. Maybe ask your dealer to give you a discount if you are buying the bike from him.
Helmets are a crap shoot so you must try on a bunch to find a real comfy helmet. Initially riding is expensive with all the gear and bike purchase but it is well worth the fun.

[vikz250]

I have leather jackets that I can use and I have a friend who will let me try his helmet but I'll ask the dealer if they can hook me up for a good helmet too.Words of encouragement !!!!!!!!!!!!! Yippee for you. Glad to have you join us here. Your riding class will be a lot of fun believe it or not. Also pick up a copy of Proficient Motorcycling by David Hough. It is the bible of motorcycling.
Your experience on bicycles will help a lot too.
Did you set enough $ aside for proper safety gear ? A T-shirt and jeans won't cut it if you fall even at low speeds. Check out your local shop for riding gear that fits comfy and be willing to wear it every time you are out riding. It is a good habit to get into. You can buy stuff cheaper on line but you need to do a few test fits first. Maybe ask your dealer to give you a discount if you are buying the bike from him.
Helmets are a crap shoot so you must try on a bunch to find a real comfy helmet. Initially riding is expensive with all the gear and bike purchase but it is well worth the fun.

[blaine]

Welcome to our family & the world of motorcycles.Go for it,no second thoughts! As WW stated you have a good basis with all your bicycle knowledge.Your gonna LOVE IT !!!!!
:cool: :2tup:

[PimpS]

Beautiful choice and bike! Have a good run and enjoy it!

[mole2]

Welcome to the forum from South Carolina. Congrats on the bike. As for a plain leather jacket, it won't afford you the same protection as a motorcycle specific leather jacket with armor at the impact points (elbows, shoulders and a back pad). I own both a leather jacket and a mesh jacket (with armor) for the warmer weather here. The state of Washington requires that a DOT approved helmet be worn (http://www.wsp.wa.gov/traveler/helmets.htm). Take the safety course BEFORE you go out on the road. It's the best investment in your safety you can make.


:)

[greatmaul]

Hi and welcome! I was a brand new rider just about 6 months ago. I rode bikes just a little, but not very much. I loved the motorcycle class, and I ride up and down the freeways and back roads here on my little gz250 all day long. I have a 2 hour commute each way and it's much more fun on the bike than in the car any day. With your extensive 2 wheel experience, I think you'll find it a blast.

I do second and third the nominations for good riding gear with armor. I found a lot on ebay for very good prices, including a brand new joe rocket suzuki jacket I just got for $20, originally $240. Also, 2nd the recommendation for David L. Hough's "Proficient Motorcycling." It's a great book. I got mine on amazon for a great price.

Be safe and have fun!!

[Rookie Rider]

Welcome, yes get the mesh jacket with padding, you can take out the liner for warm days and the padding still stays in. Take it slow and learn the right way. Def take the class and buy that book mentioned above, you wont be sorry. Ride safe !!

[ecr959]

Hello vikz250

Welcome to this forum, you have come to the right place. You will learn about safety, about maintenance, and about every facet of this sweet GZ250 that we all have. We all have the same bike, so the veterans in this forum really speak from experience. I know you will have fun learning and enjoying this motorbike.

BTW, I am curious about the sticker on the headlight. It says "82" whats that about ?

[blaine]

BTW, I am curious about the sticker on the headlight. It says "82" whats that about ?
I would guess,that it's still sitting at the dealers,that it's the "estimated MPG"
:) :cool:

[alantf]

Just noticed........ It's the first time I've seen the brake pedal of a new GZ set in what looks like the correct position. They're usually set way too high from the factory, so that you have to lift your foot off the peg to use it. Makes me think that this may be the first dealer in history to actually set up the bike correctly. :??:

[Water Warrior 2]

Just noticed........ It's the first time I've seen the brake pedal of a new GZ set in what looks like the correct position. They're usually set way too high from the factory, so that you have to lift your foot off the peg to use it. Makes me think that this may be the first dealer in history to actually set up the bike correctly. :??:
Sharp eyes there Alantf. Lynda's brake pedal was just high enough to keep the brake light on when her foot was comfortable. Once adjusted all was well.

[Rookie Rider]

My back brake pedal feels squishy squashy .

[vikz250]

thanks guys for all the encouragement, and yes the sticker is the mpg estimate,still haven't done the final paper work, we are pre-approvedfor the no-financing thing but my wife is still needs more convincing, she thinks its not safe specially after one local kid just died last tuesday trying to beat a red light (according to the local paper) but he was riding a Kawasaki ninja, i think it was a 600, because I even saw them 20mins before it happened , I even made a comment to my wife that those are fast bikes. Anyway we have until march 22 to do the financing just hoping the 2 they have wont get sold or else will be very very unhappy..One question this one is 2009, what is the difference on the newer 2010 models??

[Water Warrior 2]

One question this one is 2009, what is the difference on the newer 2010 models??
The serial number and maybe the color. Why fix it if it ain't broke?

[vikz250]

just registered to the motor cycle class for april! I will still get my permit so I can get use my bike's shiftings and what not can't wait to take her home very soon..

[vikz250]

Its offiicial :2tup: I own this GZ250!!did all the paper work march 1 , i just old them to deliver it next week,just dont want my in-laws to see it yet..buy yeah for me it is mine!!

[Water Warrior 2]

Its offiicial :2tup: I own this GZ250!!did all the paper work march 1 , i just old them to deliver it next week,just dont want my in-laws to see it yet..buy yeah for me it is mine!!
Congratulations on your new best friend. As for the outlaws, forget about them and don't try to keep them happy. That will never work.

[blaine]

Congts on your new toy.I'm with WW,worry about your own happiness!!! :) :cool:

[Rookie Rider]

Squishy squashy ??

[vikz250]

My BABY is finally home!!i will post picture later.

[Water Warrior 2]

My BABY is finally home!!i will post picture later.
:2tup: :rawk: :2tup: :rawk: :cool: :2tup: :rawk: :cool: :) :biggrin:

[Skunkhome]

Congratulations and enjoy! What was the selling price on that bike? $3450?
Are you in Washington state? If so the mountainous terrain should be a lot of fun.

[PimpS]

Congratulations vikz! The enthusiasm will last, at least in my case is still going on ;)

[vikz250]

Skunkome it was actually 3000 and yes i'm in wa state.

[Water Warrior 2]

Skunkome it was actually 3000 and yes i'm in wa state.
Washington state. yup, you will need waterproof gear for sure.

[DianeinNM]

About safety, my sister was concerned about me getting a motorcycle because of safety issues, but I pointed out that, whatever the vehicle, I don't do a lot of the stupid stuff that gets people killed on bikes. Bikes are risky, but far more so when people do risky things with them.

:-) Diane

[Skunkhome]

Skunkome it was actually 3000 and yes i'm in wa state.
Oh! That is reasonable.

[Water Warrior 2]

About safety, my sister was concerned about me getting a motorcycle because of safety issues, but I pointed out that, whatever the vehicle, I don't do a lot of the stupid stuff that gets people killed on bikes. Bikes are risky, but far more so when people do risky things with them.

:-) Diane
Diane, it isn't you that sis is worried about. It is the rest of the world trying to run over you with a car or truck. Bad things happen to good people no matter what they do for enjoyment. If you don't already wear armored riding gear you might want to start. Firstly, sis will be a little relieved and you may suffer a lot less if some one in a car isn't paying attention.
Having been to NM in the past I would definitely be looking for mesh riding gear to keep cool. No direct sun on your skin but good air flow.

[vikz250]

This weather better get sunny soon,I'm getting inpatient with all this rain and wind we are having!!

[vikz250]

Quick question anybody tried the Susuki S40 yet??I'm thinking in 5 yrs that would be my next ride..

[jonathan180iq]

why wait 5 years?
That's a good bike for anytime; even for a first time ride. Very similar in simplicity to the GZ but it's be;t drive and has more power, although it does come a bit lean from the factory.

[Water Warrior 2]

The S-40 is a pretty decent first bike. A bit heavier and more powerful than the GZ but not an overwhelming big bike for a beginner. I know a gal who rides one. It was and still is her first bike. At 4ft 9in the ground is a bit of a stretch for her but she does manage.

[Skunkhome]

Quick question anybody tried the Susuki S40 yet??I'm thinking in 5 yrs that would be my next ride..
I sat on one at the dealership and it really felt a lot like the GZ. Pretty much the same size and only about 70 lbs more weight.

[vikz250]

I was able to go a little bit farther than my usuaul route today!!yehey for me! its still in my neighborhood so traffic is still pretty light to none,stalled once on a turn but next time around i was fine,i was on third gear most of the time going 25mph, just need a little more practice before i go on a regular road..

[blaine]

Way to go.Take your time.Pretty soon you will be riding like a pro.
:cool: :)

[vikz250]

My GeeZee just hit 100 miles today!! that means I have learn/practice riding her for 80 miles now!!I did 14miles of riding today around our neighborhood , just have to keep practicing cornering and turning more and i'll be fine..I think..hehehe

[Water Warrior 2]

Just wait till after your riding course. Things will be a lot easier. When is the start date??

[vikz250]

its april 20 to 22, cant wait, I know I'm getting use to the shifting and what not but in some instances during my practice I can't tell if i'm on 3rd or 2nd gear. i used 4th gear a little bit today but mostly i was on 3rd gear because the speed limit is only 25mph, 2nd gear seemed like the enging is revving(if thats a word) high at times so i when up to 3rd..The stopping and turning I have to pay more attention because on the route i will take I have to go atleast 40mph for atleast 2 to 3 miles then a stop light, then a freaking curve , back to 40mph then it turns to 50mph for maybe a mile then another stop light, then I have to go to a little sharper curve going atleast 35 to 40 mph, then merge to a lot of traffic on my left that are going atleast 40mph , then back to 35mph then another stop light go a little hill, another stop light then I'm at work.. so yah I need to get use to a lot of stuff..

[Water Warrior 2]

its april 20 to 22, cant wait, I know I'm getting use to the shifting and what not but in some instances during my practice I can't tell if i'm on 3rd or 2nd gear. i used 4th gear a little bit today but mostly i was on 3rd gear because the speed limit is only 25mph, 2nd gear seemed like the enging is revving(if thats a word) high at times so i when up to 3rd..The stopping and turning I have to pay more attention because on the route i will take I have to go atleast 40mph for atleast 2 to 3 miles then a stop light, then a freaking curve , back to 40mph then it turns to 50mph for maybe a mile then another stop light, then I have to go to a little sharper curve going atleast 35 to 40 mph, then merge to a lot of traffic on my left that are going atleast 40mph , then back to 35mph then another stop light go a little hill, another stop light then I'm at work.. so yah I need to get use to a lot of stuff..
Sounds like you don't like curves. They should not be too much of a worry. Are you trying to turn the bars like the steering wheel of a car?? If you are you are doing it wrong. Next time you enter that curve you should push steer. If going right you push the right hand grip a little. If going left you push the left hand grip a little. This will allow the bike to lean into the curve. Yeah, scary as hell for sure until you do it and find it really works. Lynda had the dickens of a time until she realized it was the best and normal way for a bike to corner at higher speeds(above 15 mph). No, the bike won't fall down, honest. The wheels act like gyroscopes and want to stay upright not fall down. Proficient Motorcycling has a very good explaination and technical aspects of the front end geometry of a motorcycle that every rider should know to feel confident while cornering. Accelerating slightly half way through a curve will also make the bike more stable. It's in the book too.

[alantf]

2nd gear seemed like the enging is revving(if thats a word) high at times so i when up to 3rd..

Yes, that's how to use the gears. :2tup: Then, when the engine sounds as though it's "labouring", change down a gear. :)

[vikz250]

Well I finished my MSF today and sadly i DID NOT get my endorcment..but I learned a ton on how to ride a motorcycle safely..I did not dump the bike but I was some how having a bad riding day and can't quite make some of the exercises, I will have to practice more and just take my chance on going through the DOL testing in May or when ever I feel like I can pass it.I have the whole summer ahead of me just no night riding for me..I messed up but partly because I picked a crappy bike to use for the whole training..Oh well Live and Learn..It still Sucks though!...

[mole2]

Don't be discouraged. People go back and take it a second time and pass. In some places they'll let you take it a second time for free or a reduced fee. It is a lot thrown at you but it does sink in eventually - especially the second time around. Pick up a copy of Proficient Motorcycling and read it through. You can pick it up off Amazon. Ride safe.


:)

[PimpS]

I pass the test driving and got my licence in second chance. Even if it would be third or fourth, i would do it... Don't give up, do have someone who knows the way with bikes to watch you and correct you... It did wonders with my understanding and confidence of maneuviring bike... Take well!

[vikz250]

Thanks guys and I knew as soon as i finished, I said to myself "there is no way I'm passing that test!" its in my best interest that they did not pass me because i know I could have done a lot better, and for what i hear the MSF guys a lot more unforgiving which is understandable thats why they are there to keep us all safe..The main thing the guy said was I was over anticipating my brake lever, which is true, but I gotta say though driving really slow and doing some of the execercises are hard specially with the bike I was using, it just felt like the pegs are not quite where I wanted to be and that throttle was very hard to control compared to my GZ! I somehow almost lost my bike atleast 2x and the 1 scared one of the instructors because I grab the front brakes (again!) and my tires locked for maybe a sec and did a scary skid good thing I let it go or else I'll be in big trouble!.
The other one I some how gave a little too much gas and I felt my right hand slip the handle bars good thing I was able to hold on to the left and grab it again!. But i have my moments that i was able to do it right but not during the final testing..Oh well more practice..now I am keeping my hands off the brake lever more and turning my head where i want to go, look ahead don't look down ever..lean on curves, slow down before the curves, speed a little bit on the curve.

[Water Warrior 2]

Thanks guys and I knew as soon as i finished, I said to myself "there is no way I'm passing that test!" its in my best interest that they did not pass me because i know I could have done a lot better, and for what i hear the MSF guys a lot more unforgiving which is understandable thats why they are there to keep us all safe..The main thing the guy said was I was over anticipating my brake lever, which is true, but I gotta say though driving really slow and doing some of the execercises are hard specially with the bike I was using, it just felt like the pegs are not quite where I wanted to be and that throttle was very hard to control compared to my GZ! I somehow almost lost my bike atleast 2x and the 1 scared one of the instructors because I grab the front brakes (again!) and my tires locked for maybe a sec and did a scary skid good thing I let it go or else I'll be in big trouble!.
The other one I some how gave a little too much gas and I felt my right hand slip the handle bars good thing I was able to hold on to the left and grab it again!. But i have my moments that i was able to do it right but not during the final testing..Oh well more practice..now I am keeping my hands off the brake lever more and turning my head where i want to go, look ahead don't look down ever..lean on curves, slow down before the curves, speed a little bit on the curve.
You realize where you need the most practice. That is the key. You have to improve in those areas with more saddle time and practice.
I have talked to a newbie who had the idea that he would just avoid any situations where he did not have the skill to ride. WRONG !!!

[PimpS]

I just feel the need that Twist of the wrist of Keith Code is making me more reliable and confident driver too... Some deep and cool tips are there!

[kmrcstintn]

I'm also a 'soon to be' GZ 250 owner!!! 2009 with 987 miles on the odometer; I'm trading in a scooter (2009 Genuine Buddy 125) that I enjoyed the stuffing out of, but after getting my V Star 650 I find riding motorcycles more fun and safe, but still wanted a smaller & lighter machine to buzz around on, hence the GZ250...

[5th_bike]

Welcome to the forum from Central Maryland! :2tup:

[You may want to introduce yourself via the "New Topic" button]

[bpdchief]

Congrats... you'll love the GZ. Welcome to the family. Don't expect 82 mpg in the mountains of WA except when your going down hill !!! I'm in flat Florida and I'm getting 70 - 72 mpg and loving it!!

[vikz250]

well I finally did it! i went for a ride down our hill to our church and was able to get home safely!! down hill was not bad at all, going up the hil was a little nerve racking because I just now noticed how curvy a certain spot on the way up (driving in a cage i always thought it was curvy but not that curvy) and i remembered from my class to slow down a little before the curve and touch both break a little bit ,and roll the throttle after the curve, my family was driving in front of me ( in a safe distance ofcourse) just in case, but I managed and it was fun!. GeeZee had more than enough power to go up and it's quite a bit of a climb, its one of the highest place in our little town (4,262 ft).So now I just have to find somebody with a scooter so I can take my test on it and get my endorsment( they let us use scooters for testing)..

[alantf]

So now I just have to find somebody with a scooter so I can take my test on it and get my endorsment( they let us use scooters for testing)..

Don't want to sound pompous, but if you're not confident enough to take your test on the GZ, do you think that you're a fit person to be given a full licence? The idea of a test is to find out whether you can safely handle your machine, & ride with confidence, without being a danger to yourself or other road users. To have to "cheat" on something that can mean the difference between life & death/injury is a disgrace. :mad: :tdown:

[Water Warrior 2]

Gotta agree with Alantf. If you can't qualify for your license on your own bike you should wait till you have the skills to do so. Scooters are quite a bit different from a motorcycle and I know I would never feel like I had earned the privilege of riding my bike. Sort of like a trucker getting his license with a mini.

[vikz250]

I know what you guys are saying but I know some guys drive with just a permit at night even though they are not supposed too or even worst with out an endorcment and insurance..I will practice with the GZ and try to get it but the rate gas prices are rising here in the US of A, sometimes you just have to do what you have to do..its $4.10/gal. that's the cheapest, just filled up both our cars and 2 spare gas container for $100!!

[Water Warrior 2]

I know what you guys are saying but I know some guys drive with just a permit at night even though they are not supposed too or even worst with out an endorcment and insurance..I will practice with the GZ and try to get it but the rate gas prices are rising here in the US of A, sometimes you just have to do what you have to do..its $4.10/gal. that's the cheapest, just filled up both our cars and 2 spare gas container for $100!!
I know you feel like you are between a rock and a hard place with gas prices but............What will it cost you if you are basically an unskilled rider and you have a mishap on the road? What is your health and life worth to you? Legalities aside, we don't want to hear about you having a bad day and crashing just to save a few $. Even very experienced riders have bad days but a new rider really is a moving target looking for someplace to land. Consider the consequences to yourself and your family if things go out of shape and you don't have the needed skills to avoid an ugly situation.

[vikz250]

Here is me doing some weaving practice, not sure how close they have in the real test but if it is closer than this I'm screwed!! pls click to view..

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o175/vikz07/th_1d64a969.jpg (http://s120.photobucket.com/albums/o175/vikz07/?action=view&current=1d64a969.mp4)

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o175/vikz07/th_684eede5.jpg (http://s120.photobucket.com/albums/o175/vikz07/?action=view&current=684eede5.mp4)

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o175/vikz07/th_4b4945a3.jpg (http://s120.photobucket.com/albums/o175/vikz07/?action=view&current=4b4945a3.mp4)

[Water Warrior 2]

Good to see you are dressed for the ride.
Now let's pretend I am your licence examiner. Looking at the 3rd vid................you failed. Can you tell me why?

[vikz250]

Run over a cone,miss one cone or driving too slow??

[Water Warrior 2]

Run over a cone,miss one cone or driving too slow??
None of the above that I noticed. What I did notice was your right foot on the ground. Should have been the left. That way your right foot is on/near the rear brake. Also, how would you start out on a hill ? You would need your rear brake to hold the bike from rolling backwards while you operate the clutch and throttle to get moving. It makes things much safer and easier for everyone. I've been there done that and believe me the proper way is best. The proper way is a lot more confidence inspiring and a skill that is a must have.
Please do not think I am picking on you but no one wants you to get hurt. You need the skills to ride safely and you need to practice them until they are well imbedded in your muscle memory. Don't try to sneak in under the wire with a scooter to get your license. That is not the vehicle you will be riding on a daily basis. Become proficient on the GZ. It will be a rewarding experience.

[vikz250]

I know its uphill , I was just trying to get use to the in and out with out stalling my engine or putting my feet down , and fyi here they allow you to start with both feet on the ground before you go which I'm pretty sure I did,that was one of the thing i remembered in my class that i can take off with both feet on the ground to start,so i can get my balance going..

[vikz250]

I was already on 1st gear and I have the clutch and front brakes engaged before i start,then i went to 2nd before the 1st cone..

[Water Warrior 2]

I was already on 1st gear and I have the clutch and front brakes engaged before i start,then i went to 2nd before the 1st cone..
Yes, I understand that is what you were doing. But there is a better way for your own safety and riding skill. Next time you come to a stop to line up with the cones for practicing do the following. Shift down into 1st gear just prior to stopping, a few feet is good. You will be going slow so just use the rear brake. As the bike stops just drop your left foot down to the ground to hold up the bike. You will have stopped and you are already in 1st gear with the bike held stationary from the rear brake and both hands are ready to go when you are. Learn to use the rear brake for low speed manuevering and your final few feet before a full stop. Stay off of the front brake at low speeds and manuevers because that will bring you down eventually. Coming to a stop during normal riding and using the front brake will cause the forks to bounce a little as they compress and come back up. Using the rear brake avoids the bounce effect and you will be a lot smoother in your stops. I am not saying never use the front brake though. It is there to be used but not at parking lot speeds and manuevers.
I realize I have put you on the defensive vikz250 but I would like to know you are developing proper habits to begin with. I am not trying to browbeat you into submission but you will find riding a lot more enjoyable and fullfilling with the proper habits.
I rode for decades with bad habits and survived. I thank my Guardian Angel for that. 5 years ago I took a good training course with good, observant instructors. I had to break a lot of bad habits and relearn a lot of things. After the course my bike was a lot more enjoyable to ride and the skill set I had developed was impressive for an old guy like me. You can ride or you can ride well. Study Proficient Motorcycling and take a course. You will not regret it one bit.

[alantf]

, sometimes you just have to do what you have to do..its $4.10/gal.

You're lucky! I'm paying the equivalent of $5.54 per U.S. gallon (at today's conversion rate) & in England they're paying $8.60.

[vikz250]

WW I agree that is one of the thing that I have to remind my self when I practice the sudden stop drill because I know they dont like it when you put your right foot down 1st and yes I am also trying to use both breaks when stopping..Alantf sheez! If that happens here I'll be riding my Giant Defy3 road bike instead,just have to have the legs to go uphill..

[Rookie Rider]

The first bike i ever rode was my gz, got it for my bday last year. I practiced for a week and a half before taking the test for my endoresment. First day stalled almost everytime around the corner from my house. Everyday after was getting better and better. These are the bikes we use for the endorsement, use this bike to practice, then when you go for your endorsment it will be a piece of cake. I passed with flying colors. Do it bro !!

[Water Warrior 2]

, sometimes you just have to do what you have to do..its $4.10/gal.

You're lucky! I'm paying the equivalent of $5.54 per U.S. gallon (at today's conversion rate) & in England they're paying $8.60.
We are just a bit over $5 per U. S. gal.

[PimpS]

Just for the costs of fuel; 1 galon is 3,6 litres. 1 litre of gasoline (95octane) which i need about 60 litres to fill my renault clio is 1,55euro (1,31 USD=1euro), that is 7,2.. USD per gallon. Diesel is 1,33 € per liter, equals 6,22 USD per galon of diesel.

My monthly salary or better week salary (easier for americans to imagine) is 250€, that is 325 usd per week...
My salary is a bit below average.... And i work as a teacher defectologist with a children with special needs....

Need to say more... Money and prices are pretty shitty! ;)

PimpS

[alantf]

We're paying €1.11 per litre for 95 octane. In 2003, when I first came to Tenerife, it was €0.65 per litre.

Same with bottled gas, which we use for water heating & cooking. In 2003 it was around €8 for a cylinder. Now it's €15.30.

That means that fuel (petrol & gas) has almost doubled in 9 years.

[vikz250]

GeeZee just hit 250 miles today!! Did more riding in our neighborhood and amazingly enough, atleast 2x (different cars) today I almost got hit, I mean not close but it just seemed that they can't see me or something, I was not going fast , 15 to 20 mph which is the speed limit, the 1st one was a huge pick up truck who was backing up really fast, I saw him in advance even before he started backing out so I was watching already and made sure that i am way out of his way, 2nd time was an SUV same thing backing out of their drive way rather fast than normal, the 2nd one I was watching him already but he just kept backing out towards me so I had to accelarate a little bit and kinda swerved to give me some distance but man its just amazing how can they not see me?? now I'm worried about my kids going biking around withs this idiots driving that way!..

[Water Warrior 2]

Ahh, the joys of being invisible. Be sure to have the hi-beam on rather than low-beam. It will help a bit but your own attention to other traffic is your best option to staying upright and alive. You might want to invest in an air horn to wake up the slackers in their mobile living rooms.

[alantf]

You might want to invest in an air horn to wake up the slackers in their mobile living rooms.

How's your Stebel holding up? Never had one myself, & you say that yours is fine, yet webbikeworld hasn't got a good word to say about them. They reckon that they either don't work out of the box, or they fall to pieces.???? :)

[Water Warrior 2]

You might want to invest in an air horn to wake up the slackers in their mobile living rooms.

How's your Stebel holding up? Never had one myself, & you say that yours is fine, yet webbikeworld hasn't got a good word to say about them. They reckon that they either don't work out of the box, or they fall to pieces.???? :)
Both bikes have a Stebel horn. They are working just fine. I accidently killed the first one on my bike after 4 years when my choice of mounting positions and oddball parts failed during a rainstorm so that the horn filled up with water. The damage was done before I realized the problem so I just bought a new one. I actually have another to mount behind the grill of the Ranger when I feel ambitious. They may not be the cheapest on the market but they surely are the loudest. Fiam electric horns do not compare to the Stebel and they are quite loud.

[Skunkhome]

Well, I would imagine most accidents involving 4 wheelers are due to cars entering your line of travel. You have to be most vigilant to passing driveways and cars parallel parked on the street. Be on the look out for those tell tale brake lights when they shift into gear. Even keep a close watch on folks that come to a stop before entering the street. I have seen them look right through me then proceed out into my lane. I actually watch the wheels looking for that little bit of creep as they ease up on he brake. You can see them moving long before you would looking at the driver. It is a good idea to cover your brakes as you go into any intersection where there are cars. Today as I was riding through an intersection full of cars. I was in the high side of the outside lane with a car about 1second ahead of me in the inside lane. There was a car waiting in the turn lane opposite and proceeded to turn just behind the car ahead of me. I was already and was already on the brakes but he slowed his pace and stopped momentarily about a foot into my lane waiting for me to pass. I don't know if he did not see me or if he just felt he could bully his way across in front of me. By then I had already retreated to the low side of the lane and was then looking for a way to avoid the car turning right off the cross street into my lane ( if he failed to yield also). It turns out that this is a very bad intersection with lots of people are killed and injured at this intersection in autos because people just will not wait their turn and turn against the light.

We can not add air horns to bikes in Louisiana and still pass the fitness inspection. Personally I think my time is better spent looking for a safe exit strategy rather than going for the horn however badly I would love to blast them.

[Rionna]

Vikz250, I hope you pass your test, and I hope you listen to the seasoned advice you're receiving on this forum. I started riding last May after taking the class the prior October. Here in Ohio, you take the test after the class and if you pass you get your endorsement. I read the books that were suggested, watched videos, and was horrible when I 1st started riding. I went from my driveway, to around the block, and progressed from there. In a year have put 2200 miles on my bike, and have had many hours of pleasure and more than a few scary moments. I still find myself making errors, and being thankful that my bike isn't more powerful or heavier because I would have been in real trouble. My point is that learning to be a safe and competent rider is an ongoing process. Your skills are going to be constantly challenged and hopefully improving daily. Please take your time and allow your skills to develop, please wear all of the appropriate gear all the time (yes even when it's hot), and most importantly, please ride safe!

[vikz250]

thanks Rionna yes i will keep practicing and hopefully I can pass the test too,I have atleast 1 and a half months before my permit needs to be renewed so hopefuly I don't have to renew it and just pass my test..And ofcourse I did more riding today and man It is WINDY today! I mean I always know its windy here but riding my GeeZee and getting hit by wind gusty winds was something else, i can feel the bike was having a little hard time so I had to shift to a 4th at times just to get some more power. I have a question, it seemes like at times when I'm on 4th gear and wanted to go back to 3rd, it skips 3rd and just go straight to 2nd??maybe I'm pulling the shifting pedal to strong or fast that it just go to 2nd instead of 3rd?? not sure whats going on but its ok. I'll just have to try again tomorrow..

[blaine]

I have a question, it seemes like at times when I'm on 4th gear and wanted to go back to 3rd, it skips 3rd and just go straight to 2nd??maybe I'm pulling the shifting pedal to strong or fast that it just go to 2nd instead of 3rd?? not sure whats going on but its ok. I'll just have to try again tomorrow..
When shifting down,you should be only be able to shift down on gear at a time,unless you are releasing pressure on the shifter & reapplying pressure.This is the way it is designed.If you can shift down more than one gear at a time ,you have a problem.I doubt that this is the case.You are most likely applying and reapplying pressure on the shifter without realizing it.Your shifting will get better with more practice.Good Luck.
:) :cool:

[PimpS]

Guys and girls! How or when do you downshift? I downshift from 5th to 4 th somewhere near 50 km/h (cca 35 mph), sometimes even lower, but in manual is stated as I read yesterday at 30 km/h (cca 20 mph)? Isn't that too low...
Another question about gear shifting; when you are driving through town, where limit is 50 km/h, do you drive it in 4 th or am i making a damage to the machine, if i drive in 5th gear? That is oin the flat terrain, not down or uphill of course...
Thank you.

[blaine]

Your down shifts could be a little higher.I down shift to 4 at about 45.Cruising around in 5th at 30 mph is lugging the engine a little much,IMO.I think 4th would be more appropriate.If the engine idles to slow,than it starves for oil,causing engine damage.That's why the idle speed is set 1200 to 1400 rpm.Not like a 4 wheel vehicle that has the idle set at 800 to 1000 rpm.
:) :cool:

[Water Warrior 2]

The owners manual was written by corporate lawyers who are paid to avoid lawsuits. The shift points are generally too low for any actual riding situations. Around town try to stay in a gear that will keep the engine near the lower end of it's power curve but still reving nicely and freely. That way you maintain the option of more power now if need be and/or the the option of dropping down a gear for traffic and manuevering.

[dentheman]

vikz250--I also practiced on residential streets and parking lots. It helped, but I was always afraid I would fall at the low speeds. Then I took her for a short ride on the freeway. No slow corners, no stop signs, no cars pulling out in front of me (but added care must be taken approaching entrance/exit ramps). The higher speed instilled trust of my bike, and gave me some 'real world' shifting practice getting on and off the freeway. That short trip at high speed helped to build my confidence. After that, I did better at my slow speed cornering, stopping, etc. Now I'm not saying ride a main road during rush hour, I went on a Sunday afternoon when there was little traffic.

Getting on the freeway was not a problem, but after a few minutes, the thought entered my mind; "How am I going to get off the freeway, with that curve of an exit?"

You may not yet be ready to try this, I'm just giving you my experience of learning to ride.

[Water Warrior 2]

Wow, can I relate to that. The day I picked up my Vstrom I rode from the dealer to get gas and had a b*itch of a time. From there it was a wonderful mostly highway ride to get home. I had to gain confidence and acclimatize to the bike. At the speed limit or a bit less the curves were a treat to a returning rider. I was wet and cold but still smiling.

[vikz250]

It was a very nice day today so I was able to go a little bit further than my usual route and it was fun! went down the hill again and was able to get back up very smoothly this time around which was great!.. I also was able to combine both my favorite thing to do..I drove GeeZee to the gun club to try out my new piece ( STI Spartan IV 1911 in 9mm) and man that was fun..here is a video of me shooting , don't worry the casing that hit GeeZee did not leave a mark hehehe..Life is good..

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o175/vikz07/b75992ed.jpg

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o175/vikz07/6a05be10.jpg

me shooting my 1911..
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o175/vikz07/th_05e22440.jpg (http://s120.photobucket.com/albums/o175/vikz07/?action=view&current=05e22440.mp4)

[Water Warrior 2]

That is a pretty serious hand gun. Enjoy.

[vikz250]

Thanks WW yes it is very nice, I like the old school 1911's very reliable like GeeZee hehehe..

[Skunkhome]

Your down shifts could be a little higher.I down shift to 4 at about 45.Cruising around in 5th at 30 mph is lugging the engine a little much,IMO.I think 4th would be more appropriate.If the engine idles to slow,than it starves for oil,causing engine damage.That's why the idle speed is set 1200 to 1400 rpm.Not like a 4 wheel vehicle that has the idle set at 800 to 1000 rpm.
:) :cool:
Gee, 45 mph seems a little high for a down shift into 4th. Is that running a 15 T sprocket? Now I agree that 20 mph is way too low to down skift. I find 30-35 to be a good point for 5th to 4th down shift.

[Skunkhome]

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o175/vikz07/b75992ed.jpg


Is the pistol on top supressed?

[vikz250]

skunkhome yes it is..

[vikz250]

Did some more riding and went down our hill for the 3rd time and oh boy! going up on those curves was a little scary!!. the 1st 2 times I did it i was fine,Ok the 1st time I was a little nervous so it was not a smooth curving up the hill, the 2nd time I did it perfectly nice so I thought I should try it again, well I Kinda went in to the 1st curve a little fast so I felt a little panic but I told myself don't touch the breaks too much just a tap on both to slow a little bit and lean with the curve then the 2nd curve was up so I was going 35mph which is the speed limit, so while I was able to deal with the curve Ok considering I knew I was a little fast on the 1st, thats when I said "Oh crap!" I ended in the left turn lane, instead of my lane!. There was no other cars infront of me or any going in the other direction, so I did a quick head check to my right look at my mirrors and just went back to my lane..I was "crap" thats sucked! and then I was almost on top I kinda noticed that GeeZEE is not pulling more even though I was maxed on my gas , so again another mistake , I decided to shift up to 5th! thinking that will help, bad move I heard GeeZEE did not like it at all so i was "oh crap back to fourth gear!"..nothing happened just my EGO and Condidence got hurt a bit but not to worry I will practice more on a lesser traffic uphill/curving roads before I go down the hill..and yes I went back and the the book and you guys who read it know it is on page 100 of the PROFICIENT MOTORCYCLING book..

here is a pic of the page..Excatly what happened to me!

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o175/vikz07/c9b94ef2.jpg

[Water Warrior 2]

Hmm. Keep reading and practicing. While you may be gaining confidence in some things you sound like you almost totally forgot the shifter. If you are heading into a downhill curve gear down for a little engine braking. If you were to then be going into an incline you likely should have geared down to 3rd going downhill and had a more powerful gear to attack the incline. Gearing down will help settle the bike rear end and also provide some much needed horse power going uphill. Go back to your hill and practice. Going uphill under accelleration in a curve is the smoothest most stable way to ride. Just be sure to be entering the curve at a reduced speed and in the proper gear. Learn what works for both the bike and rider. That is a required skill to ride safely.
Then go tackle other hills with a bit of experience of what works and what will not without endangering yourself. Don't crash. Ride safe.

[vikz250]

WW thanks!, I noticed when going down our hill i have to be on 4th gear because if I stay on 3rd gear I can feel/hear the engine revving a little high so I go to 4th gear and it goes away, I got the going downhill part its the uphill climb and curving at thesame time that gets tricky for me, I also learned that its best to down shift to 1st on any 4-way stop to avoid stalling...And yes dogs(little ones!) really like going after motorcyles! learned this yesterday, saw this dog in advance ofcourse and i knew it's coming towards me ofcourse I already slowed down and tap my breaks, but the darn dog literally cut in front of me!! good thing I was able to break early and avoided running it down!!Whew darn dog I said to myself LOL!!.

[greatmaul]

Agree with WW, and also: don't forget that you don't always have to ride at the "speed limit." If you're in an unfamiliar area, and it's getting scary, forget the speed limit, slow down, and just ride at the speed you feel comfortable. Of course, if people start to line up behind you, you should probably pull over for a few seconds to let them pass.

If you're on the wrong line, as you noticed on that page about delayed apex, then even the speed limit can be too fast and can send you into the next lane, or off the road altogether!

[Water Warrior 2]

If you're on the wrong line, as you noticed on that page about delayed apex, then even the speed limit can be too fast and can send you into the next lane, or off the road altogether!
Oh could I tell you stories about the wrong line. I am really amazed that I lived through some of my lesser moments. Never crashed but there were some near misses that made me sweat. I wasn't near as good as I thought I was.

[vikz250]

good morning guys! Just got back from vacation so now I'm back to more riding!, yesterday was my 1st time riding my GZ to where I work!, I mean I was off on the weekends so I told my wife I will venture and try practicing going to work, its only 8 miles but in regular traffic, I was a little nervous but once I started the jitters went away. Man going 35 to 40 mph is something else! specially when that headwind hit you!, I keep reminding myself hold on tight and don't get blown away!. Its not too bad as long as I keep reminding myself to pull the clutch on stops and go to 1st gear..my question to you guys is I tend to check my mirrors for cars behind me a little too much I think, how often do you guys check?..I also was able to practice the course where I will take mt test but 30 mins or so in my practice I kinda messed up on the sudden stop and put GZ down! she is fine and I got scratced on my leg but no biggie as long as I wont do that during the testing and while driving on the road!...

[jonathan180iq]

Once you have some more seat-time logged, and you get more comfortable accepting that other cars do treat you like a vehicle on the road, you'll stop checking your mirrors so often.

That being said, it's still good practice to keep a somewhat untrustworthy approach to other cars and traffic. You have to find a nice balance and defensive and offensive riding combined in order to have a happy and safe life in the saddle. Don't be so paranoid that you over-think and freak yourself out. But also don't get so lax that you just expect everyone to know that you are there.

[vikz250]

Well Hello folk! very happy to report that I got my ENDORSEMENT this morning :rawk: :rawk: !! took the test with GZ and she took care of me!! I kinda bangeled the last test,the swerving but I did enough on the other 3 that I got the 80 passing score!!Yah Baby!! but i'm still learning and I have to keep focusing because I almost forgot to break on the way home on one of the turns because I was so happy!, nothing happened I just reminded myself to "OK back on earth now"!!..Yah baby!!

[blaine]

Well Hello folk! very happy to report that I got my ENDORSEMENT this morning :rawk: :rawk: !! took the test with GZ and she took care of me!! I kinda bangeled the last test,the swerving but I did enough on the other 3 that I got the 80 passing score!!Yah Baby!! but i'm still learning and I have to keep focusing because I almost forgot to break on the way home on one of the turns because I was so happy!, nothing happened I just reminded myself to "OK back on earth now"!!..Yah baby!!

http://s15.postimage.org/uhjxyvz07/th_Congratulations_CAE99_KHU.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/uhjxyvz07/)

:2tup: :cool:

[Rookie Rider]

Congrats, ride safe.

[mole2]

Congratulations! Ride safe.


:)

[vikz250]

well I did it! went to work and rode at night for the 1st time and gotta say its not bad at all, you just have to pay a lot more attention on the road because some parts are not lit and going uphill on a curve, i was a little worried because I saw some signs of lightning and thunder about to roll in so I was hoping to make it home before it starts rumbling..man I am loving this GZ more..

[bonehead]

One major thing to look out for while riding in the dark is road debris. It comes up on you really fast. We had a biker killed here while riding at night and hitting debris. Don't ride faster than your guardian angel can fly, and don't out ride your headlight.

[Water Warrior 2]

Night riding with a GZ can be a challenge with the stock headlight bulb. Lynda's GZ received a SilverStar bulb and a proper headlight alignment. She felt much safer but it wasn't the greatest by any stretch. If I was going to ride a GZ after dark on a regular basis I would invest in some decent LED driving lights. The GZ will power them adequately but not much more. I can find a U.S. source that Vstrom riders have used and recommend both for quality and price range. If I remember correctly they are a bargan at approx $170 for those interested.
From a safety stand point a bike with a single light source is a liability if/when the bulb goes out after dark.

[vikz250]

Whew!! thats was an interesting ride home this morning! (1:00am). It was a nice day going to work, going home well lets just say its my 1st time riding in a middle of a thunderstorm/lightning/rain and wind!!got home safely, I just keep telling myself to slow down a bit. watch the road and don't get hit by a freaking lightning!!

[northsidegz]

That would have been en-lightning to say the least!

(insert Fozzie Bear waca waca here)

Glad you're safe!

[Water Warrior 2]

Crispy critter comes to mind.

[vikz250]

Just finished changing the oil of my GZ! now she rides even smoother!!yeah ah!!

[vikz250]

Oh DEER! I mean literally DEER! I saw atleast one crossing on my way home from work, I spotted it when I was maybe 15 yards away from it and I was already covering my breaks because I was on a little down hill, I have seen them before out in the back parking lot where I work and I know there is atleast 3 or 4 of them so when I saw the one I just pretty much slowed down to almost 10 mph or so because I'm not sure where the other ones are.They are good size too..

[northsidegz]

....a somewhat unrelated story. There's a respectable used motorcycle dealer in our area selling a 2003 Kawasaki ZG1000 Concourse that "met a deer." They even stated, "as evident by the hair still pinched in the cracks in the lower fairing" and I'm thinking, why are you not cleaning it and taking care of that?

We have a few dealers in this area that will do that. Sometimes they go through a thorough inspection and ensure the bike is ready to go and other times they tell you there's still deer hair in the fairing and it'll need a headlight, blinkers, a foot peg, etc. I guess I can understand why they don't fix up every bike that comes their way, but it just seems to me if you want to be a truly respectable used motorcycle dealer, you'd try to make sure every motorcycle you sell is road ready. Then again, I'm not in the industry, so I probably don't really appreciate what it would take to do that.

...still, clean out the deer hair at least!

[vikz250]

Here is a shot of my GEEZEE with one of the Harley guy I work with..

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o175/vikz07/8045c336.jpg

My GEEZEE with out the "safety" sticker..
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o175/vikz07/07b40fd1.jpg

[Water Warrior 2]

Safety stickers are the bane of a new bike. Thankfully they are easily removed. The sooner the better for ease of removal.

[northsidegz]

Lookin' nice vikz! :)

(I wish the GZ could have the look of dual exhaust - even though it's not a V-Twin, I think the appearance of dual exhaust would really help it look slick).

[Water Warrior 2]

Lookin' nice vikz! :)

(I wish the GZ could have the look of dual exhaust - even though it's not a V-Twin, I think the appearance of dual exhaust would really help it look slick).
Wishful thinking but you have to remember the GZ is a price point bike. That would add to the final cost. Also adds a little more complexity to the bike. Suzuki has opted to stay with the KISS principle when building the GZ.

[Water Warrior 2]

Night riding with a GZ can be a challenge with the stock headlight bulb. Lynda's GZ received a SilverStar bulb and a proper headlight alignment. She felt much safer but it wasn't the greatest by any stretch. If I was going to ride a GZ after dark on a regular basis I would invest in some decent LED driving lights. The GZ will power them adequately but not much more. I can find a U.S. source that Vstrom riders have used and recommend both for quality and price range. If I remember correctly they are a bargan at approx $170 for those interested.
From a safety stand point a bike with a single light source is a liability if/when the bulb goes out after dark.


Found the LED driving light source. Go to Stromtroopers.com and do a search for Crazy George. He is American and sells from the U.S. The search will bring up a thread about the lights and a video of their ability to light up the night. More than illuminating.

[vikz250]

On the way to work I had to put gas on my bike, so pulled up started filling my tank and I don't know why I was kinda surprise after pumping just 2.56 gallons or something like that ,my thank is already full and it only cost me $8.21!! and I realized that I can drive close to 140 miles on a full tank!!...Just FYI I usually just use my gas can that I fill for my lawn mower to fill up GZ but I was out of gas in gthe cans that's why I went to the fasoline station ..