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tepper
11-30-2011, 07:53 PM
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Gz Rider
11-30-2011, 11:48 PM
Did you change the fork oil or brake fluid? Did you remove the axles and clean our and dirt or residue from the bearings? Have you cleaned all the cables to make sure there is no dirt or rust that either damages those cables or might cause them to seize?
For anyone considering a purchase like this you might want to read this thread:
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=5087 (http://www.gz250bike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=5087)
mrlmd1
12-01-2011, 10:07 AM
If they were under fresh water instead of saltwater, that's not as bad, but I would be worried about electrical problems from corrosion at contact points and connectors and electrical components. Those problems may not show up for a while. You'd have to take off the tank and headlight bucket and trace every wire and clean and check everything.
And how much is it?
Sometimes a salvage title can be a PIA and a problem to insure, so check with your state first.
Gz Rider
12-01-2011, 11:14 AM
If they were under fresh water instead of saltwater, that's not as bad, but I would be worried about electrical problems from corrosion at contact points and connectors and electrical components. Those problems may not show up for a while. You'd have to take off the tank and headlight bucket and trace every wire and clean and check everything.
I'd think you would have to remove all the fuses and clean the contacts there. There is a reason why titles are branded as salvage. He's priced it at 2499. I just don't know how anyone would know what the right amount to pay for this would be.
jonathan180iq
12-01-2011, 01:43 PM
I'd happily pay $1,000.
But $2,400 is high even for a bike with a good title and no damage what-so-ever.
Pristine GZs are selling for $1700-$2300
Gz Rider
12-01-2011, 11:00 PM
I'd happily pay $1,000.
But $2,400 is high even for a bike with a good title and no damage what-so-ever.
Pristine GZs are selling for $1700-$2300
I think 1000 would be a good deal for someone like yourself that would be able to deal with any problems the flooding might bring. I just happen to know a guy who sold a nice 2008 with 267 miles for 1500. :whistle:
Kidding aside, it's a buyers market in the winter.
mrlmd1
12-01-2011, 11:14 PM
In that pic it looks like the rear fender is rusting,
And don't forget, there's absolutely no warranty on that bike.
Some uninformed sucker will pay a good price and that's what they're looking for. But like everything else, buyer beware, the future problems have yet to surface. The engine is the least of what's to come.
Water Warrior 2
12-02-2011, 02:07 AM
I'd happily pay $1,000.
But $2,400 is high even for a bike with a good title and no damage what-so-ever.
Pristine GZs are selling for $1700-$2300
Jonathan has the right idea. I personally would opt for a pristine used bike before shelling out $1000 for the other new but drowned bike. I can just imagine having to replace many electrical items due to water damage and some potential rust damage that was skipped in the original clean-up.
I doubt the seller paid much for these bikes as they were written off by insurance. I would much rather have a proven/ridden bike to ride rather than an unproven potential breakdown bike to haul me around. Do any of us really want to mess around with gremlins or would a rideable bike be more fun.
The drowned bike would likely need all new bearings, fluids, brake material(pads/shoes), inch by inch electrical wiring inspection, and a lot of fittings may be corroded that would seriously hinder future maintenance and repairs. A $1000 might be the tip of the iceberg for the drowned bike. Do I sound paranoid or just lazy ? Sure do in both cases. I'll go back to my happy place now.
jonathan180iq
12-02-2011, 09:08 AM
I'd happily pay $1,000.
But $2,400 is high even for a bike with a good title and no damage what-so-ever.
Pristine GZs are selling for $1700-$2300
I think 1000 would be a good deal for someone like yourself that would be able to deal with any problems the flooding might bring. I just happen to know a guy who sold a nice 2008 with 267 miles for 1500. :whistle:
Kidding aside, it's a buyers market in the winter.
I am well aware that you purchased the best looking GZ on the forum.... and for $1500...
How dare you go behind the back of the forum overlord and purchase a bike that he probably wouldn't be able to purchase anyway.
Shun you, I do!
SHUN!
Gz Rider
12-02-2011, 09:12 AM
In that pic it looks like the rear fender is rusting,
And don't forget, there's absolutely no warranty on that bike.
Some uninformed sucker will pay a good price and that's what they're looking for. But like everything else, buyer beware, the future problems have yet to surface. The engine is the least of what's to come.
I noticed the read seat was missing. My guess is he replaced the driver seat but would flip a few more buck for the rear.
Gz Rider
12-02-2011, 09:20 AM
I'd happily pay $1,000.
But $2,400 is high even for a bike with a good title and no damage what-so-ever.
Pristine GZs are selling for $1700-$2300
Jonathan has the right idea. I personally would opt for a pristine used bike before shelling out $1000 for the other new but drowned bike. I can just imagine having to replace many electrical items due to water damage and some potential rust damage that was skipped in the original clean-up.
I doubt the seller paid much for these bikes as they were written off by insurance. I would much rather have a proven/ridden bike to ride rather than an unproven potential breakdown bike to haul me around. Do any of us really want to mess around with gremlins or would a rideable bike be more fun.
The drowned bike would likely need all new bearings, fluids, brake material(pads/shoes), inch by inch electrical wiring inspection, and a lot of fittings may be corroded that would seriously hinder future maintenance and repairs. A $1000 might be the tip of the iceberg for the drowned bike. Do I sound paranoid or just lazy ? Sure do in both cases. I'll go back to my happy place now.
It's not lazy to buy smart. I don't think 1000 would be a bad gamble, but it would still be a gamble. it's not impossible that the bike could be ok but for me a mototcycle is too dangerous already for me to worry about the bearing seizing up at 65 mph.
Even if all the maintenance you suggest is done (and that was a good list), I'd still worry about egine damage. Not because I'm worried about my 1000 paid but because I read threads on here about people's engines seizing at 65. i think for another 500- 1000(winter prices), you can get a none flooded bike.
tepper
12-11-2011, 12:08 AM
Did you change the fork oil or brake fluid? Did you remove the axles and clean our and dirt or residue from the bearings? Have you cleaned all the cables to make sure there is no dirt or rust that either damages those cables or might cause them to seize?
For anyone considering a purchase like this you might want to read this thread:
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=5087 (http://www.gz250bike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=5087)
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tepper
12-11-2011, 12:10 AM
If they were under fresh water instead of saltwater, that's not as bad, but I would be worried about electrical problems from corrosion at contact points and connectors and electrical components. Those problems may not show up for a while. You'd have to take off the tank and headlight bucket and trace every wire and clean and check everything.
And how much is it?
Sometimes a salvage title can be a PIA and a problem to insure, so check with your state first.
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tepper
12-11-2011, 12:12 AM
I'd happily pay $1,000.
But $2,400 is high even for a bike with a good title and no damage what-so-ever.
Pristine GZs are selling for $1700-$2300
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tepper
12-11-2011, 12:15 AM
In that pic it looks like the rear fender is rusting,
And don't forget, there's absolutely no warranty on that bike.
Some uninformed sucker will pay a good price and that's what they're looking for. But like everything else, buyer beware, the future problems have yet to surface. The engine is the least of what's to come.
...
tepper
12-11-2011, 12:18 AM
In that pic it looks like the rear fender is rusting,
And don't forget, there's absolutely no warranty on that bike.
Some uninformed sucker will pay a good price and that's what they're looking for. But like everything else, buyer beware, the future problems have yet to surface. The engine is the least of what's to come.
I noticed the read seat was missing. My guess is he replaced the driver seat but would flip a few more buck for the rear.
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tepper
12-11-2011, 12:24 AM
[quote=jonathan180iq]I'd happily pay $1,000.
But $2,400 is high even for a bike with a good title and no damage what-so-ever.
Pristine GZs are selling for $1700-$2300
Jonathan has the right idea. I personally would opt for a pristine used bike before shelling out $1000 for the other new but drowned bike. I can just imagine having to replace many electrical items due to water damage and some potential rust damage that was skipped in the original clean-up.
I doubt the seller paid much for these bikes as they were written off by insurance. I would much rather have a proven/ridden bike to ride rather than an unproven potential breakdown bike to haul me around. Do any of us really want to mess around with gremlins or would a rideable bike be more fun.
The drowned bike would likely need all new bearings, fluids, brake material(pads/shoes), inch by inch electrical wiring inspection, and a lot of fittings may be corroded that would seriously hinder future maintenance and repairs. A $1000 might be the tip of the iceberg for the drowned bike. Do I sound paranoid or just lazy ? Sure do in both cases. I'll go back to my happy place now.
It's not lazy to buy smart. I don't think 1000 would be a bad gamble, but it would still be a gamble. it's not impossible that the bike could be ok but for me a mototcycle is too dangerous already for me to worry about the bearing seizing up at 65 mph.
Even if all the maintenance you suggest is done (and that was a good list), I'd still worry about egine damage. Not because I'm worried about my 1000 paid but because I read threads on here about people's engines seizing at 65. i think for another 500- 1000(winter prices), you can get a none flooded bike.[/quote:1d7kvoi5]
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Gz Rider
12-11-2011, 02:20 AM
There is a big difference between riding in wet weather and submersion in flood water. Everyone knows that and that's why the title is branded SALVAGE for flooding and not for riding in wet weather.
Water Warrior 2
12-11-2011, 04:02 AM
Maybe we could ask to have this thread closed before somebody says something nasty and unforgiving.
I got no dog in the fight, but...you know these bikes were selling new for 2995.
2010 SUZUKI GZ250, Ready to roll in classic cruiser style? Experience the comfort and thrill of an authentic cruiser the moment you plant yourself on the low seat, stretch your legs forward, and meld with the long, low line of the GZ250. Then discover true riding pleasure, thanks to easy handling, superb comfort, and Suzuki's renowned quality and reliability.
Asking Price:
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$2,499
tepper
12-11-2011, 10:31 AM
Maybe we could ask to have this thread closed before somebody says something nasty and unforgiving.
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Maybe we could ask to have this thread closed before somebody says something nasty and unforgiving.
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Nice edit. Looks like our Salvage seller is gone. And he brought so much fun to the site.
:)
Water Warrior 2
12-11-2011, 01:52 PM
Fun yes. And some food for thought when looking at a drowned bike.
Gz Rider
12-11-2011, 02:48 PM
It's no fun selling salvage vehicles.....
Gz Rider
12-11-2011, 03:07 PM
I am well aware that you purchased the best looking GZ on the forum.... and for $1500...
How dare you go behind the back of the forum overlord and purchase a bike that he probably wouldn't be able to purchase anyway.
Shun you, I do!
SHUN!
I don't know how I missed this post from you but I just saw it today. :lol:
It must have been lost in the flood!
jonathan180iq
12-12-2011, 09:00 AM
Topic locked.
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