View Full Version : 15 to 16 tooth, still need some answers
FLAJIM
10-21-2011, 01:26 PM
I bought the GZ250 for the wife and as a second bike. It is a 2009, stock. I have read most of the past posts on the T16 front sprocket but still have questions. First, where can I buy one and will putting it on affect my warrantee ??? Does Suzuki make one, if so what is the part number ?? My wife complains now that first gear runs out too fast, will the T16 make this worse ??? Is the only benefit of the T16 realize at top speed in 5 gear ??? Is this a mod that should be made for a new rider ?? Also, I have only read about changing/ upgrading the front sprocket, what about the rear ??
I thank you in advance for your help and advice Be Safe JIM
Gz Rider
10-21-2011, 02:26 PM
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Viirin
10-21-2011, 02:54 PM
it'll make first gear last longer - most people here say it actually makes first gear "useful" - you should notice each gear lasts longer - you can change the rear sprocket too but most people just change the front - i guess it's less hassle
It'll reduce the torque so i guess in many ways it makes the bike more suitable for new riders - a bit less shifting and a bit slower off the line so more time to concentrate on other things
Suzuki probably make a 16 tooth sprocket but i'm sure someone on here will have the name of a manufacturer that's just as good and half the price - probably a JT sprocket
jonathan180iq
10-21-2011, 04:26 PM
The Suzuki factory part number for a 16T sprocket is 27511-37200
Water Warrior 2
10-21-2011, 07:04 PM
The front sprocket is cheaper and overall easier. I have read that SunStar makes all the sprockets for OEM Jap bikes. I wouldn't doubt they make the JT for the aftermarket crowd too.
cayuse
10-21-2011, 07:20 PM
Most riders who've tried it, myself included, find it makes the lower gears more friendly and useful. You will have less torque in all gears but this will be most noticeable in 5th gear. It is a great mod for in-city, light commuting. It is detrimental IMHO to performance on the interstate, especially if you encounter head winds or hills. My bike is pretty healthy, and yet it has bogged down on a flat highway fighting a stiff headwind, forcing me to shift down to 4th just to maintain 60mph.
FLAJIM
10-21-2011, 09:56 PM
I thank you all for the advice. Any tips on the install and where to buy/ order the T16 part and number ??
Be Safe JIM
Water Warrior 2
10-21-2011, 10:13 PM
I thank you all for the advice. Any tips on the install and where to buy/ order the T16 part and number ??
Be Safe JIM
Ronayers.com can help you with the sprocket. Just one of many suppliers.
jonathan180iq
10-24-2011, 09:27 AM
I thank you all for the advice. Any tips on the install and where to buy/ order the T16 part and number ??
Be Safe JIM
If you want the factory part, just call your local Suzuki dealership and have them look it up and give you a price.
As far as tips on the install, the How-To should cover everything you'll ever need to know. If not, there are like 15 pages on conversations after it to truly confuse you ;) Just go with the original How-To article.
FLAJIM
10-24-2011, 09:58 PM
Thank you all for the replies, Be Safe JIM
FLAJIM
10-24-2011, 10:23 PM
I am sorry for all the questions but does anyone know the JT part number for the 16T sprocket ??? I have been on the website and can't find it.... I must be doing something wrong..... can't get it.
Thanks as always Be Safe JIM
blaine
10-24-2011, 11:04 PM
The part number is:JTF434.16. :) :cool:
jonathan180iq
10-25-2011, 09:13 AM
This might help:
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Possibly the easiest mod that you can do which will have a pretty drastic change to the way your bike performs is to change the final drive gearing.
The final drive of the GZ250 is a simple chain/sprocket combo. The final drive ratio is 2.73. This number is easily calculated by dividing the number teeth on the rear sprocket by the number of teeth on the front sprocket. In our case, since we have a factory sprocket combination of 15 and 41 (15 teeth in the front and 41 in the rear) the calculation would look like this.
41 / 15 = 2.73333333 (or 2.73)
The lower the gearing, the lower the revs. The higher the gearing, the higher the revs.
You'll almost never want to change any sprocket more than one or two teeth sizes in any direction over the factory number.
By comparison, switching over to a 16T front sprocket lowers the final drive ratio to 2.56 (41/16)
What does this mean in practical application?
The 16T front sprocket lowers cruising revs in all gears and allows the lower gears to be used for a longer period of time. However, you will probably notice a drop off in your top speed. While the factory gearing allows the GZ to reach somewhere around 80mph, the 16T front sprocket will lower that to around 70mph. The reason being that the internal gearing of 5th gear has a ratio of .818, which is basically an internal overdrive and seems to make the gear too "tall" for the mighty GZ to handle.
Where can I purchase a new sprocket?
The Suzuki factory part number for a 16T sprocket is 27511-37200
The JT Sprockets part number is JTF 434.16
Sprocket Specialists make both front and rear sprockets for the GZ250.
The front sprockets are available from size 10-16. Part number: 528-(number of teeth)
The rear sprockets are available from size 28-74. Part number: 461-(number of teeth)
http://www.postimage.org/PqHgVm0.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=PqHgVm0)
How do I change my front sprocket?
http://www.gz250bike.com/viewtopic.php?t=317
FLAJIM
10-26-2011, 08:21 AM
Thanks, jonathan180iq for the great amount of info. I wasn't able to find the JT one so I went with the Suzuki one and should have it in a few days. As the bike is for my wife and she is a new rider, I feel it should be a great mod. As for when I ride it, it will only be around town and will also work out.
I ready don't understand why anyone would want to go 70 or 80 MPH on such a light bike but that just me. With all my add on's my Ultra over 1000 lbs and still get wind push around on the highways.
Be safe JIM
mrgz250
07-22-2013, 12:14 AM
your just asking for problems chainging sprockets its not worth it unless its a factory suzuki part
new after market has no rubber damper made on it
Water Warrior 2
07-22-2013, 01:28 AM
your just asking for problems chainging sprockets its not worth it unless its a factory suzuki part
new after market has no rubber damper made on it
It does not need a rubber dampner to function properly.
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