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Steveoh
07-27-2011, 01:03 PM
I recently bought a 2004 GZ for $800. It had sat in the weather for a year and I found it had been dumped. When the front brake pads fell off on the ride home, I decided to go through the whole bike.

The wiring harness was chopped up so I just tore it, the extra lights and wiring off and replaced that. I had to switch out the plug ins from the handle bar wiring, so I did this as I lengthen the wiring by 4" to fit the new handle bars. All tested out on the ohm meter. I also cleaned the carb, adjusted the valves,

The foot stand switch seems to test fine as does the new start/stop switches, . Fuses are all checked, battery is new, replaced the ignitor.
starter relay, coil, etc all seem to test ok, The ignitor didn't
Lights, horn, etc work.

I just have no spark and no juice to the starter. It is such a simple wiring system, I am just missing something.

geezer
07-27-2011, 05:47 PM
before you over think things, apply power to the starter, does it spin? what about the starter solenoid? sounds like you handy with a volt meter so check and see if your getting voltage at the starter, if not go to the next point which should be the solenoid and keep going till you find your opening. so your not using the original bars, are they painted? im not sure if the handlebar controls are grounded to the bars. some bike do

Water Warrior 2
07-27-2011, 08:26 PM
You might want to double check the starter button. It is actually 2 switches in one. Push to start and it will disconnect the headlight while the starter whirls. Release and the starter disengages and the headlight comes back on. You might have a bad connection from the long overdue cleaning up.

Hmm, hey guys and gals. Did I just describe that right or am I thinking of another Suzuki ?? M-50 maybe.... :??:

5th_bike
07-27-2011, 08:37 PM
You might want to double check the starter button. It is actually 2 switches in one. Push to start and it will disconnect the headlight while the starter whirls. Release and the starter disengages and the headlight comes back on. You might have a bad connection from the long overdue cleaning up.

Hmm, hey guys and gals. Did I just describe that right or am I thinking of another Suzuki ?? M-50 maybe.... :??:
The wiring diagram only shows one contact, for the ignition, at the starter button. Must be another bike you're talking about.

Water Warrior 2
07-27-2011, 08:48 PM
Yeah, haven't had the GZ for a couple years and wasn't totally sure anymore. Both other bikes work as I mentioned and can be a headache if the switch gets all corroded by weather and such.

Steveoh
07-29-2011, 09:01 PM
The headlight stays on when I start (try) the GZ. On the 800 Intruder, the headlight does disconnect while starting.

I am beginning to believe that the problem is the in the wiring harness I installed. I'm just waiting for the garage to cool off a bit before testing wires.

KrazeeMyke
07-30-2011, 03:11 AM
I just have no spark and no juice to the starter. It is such a simple wiring system, I am just missing something.


Maybe silly question, but. ....Are you engaging the clutch? There is a safety switch. Bike wont engage starter unless in Neutral and clutch engaged/applied.

geezer
07-30-2011, 08:58 AM
might be a good idea to ride two up with someone more experienced so he or hopefully she can teach you. this is getting crazy, yall need to get the basics down or your gonna get hurt eventually

blaine
07-30-2011, 09:04 AM
might be a good idea to ride two up with someone more experienced so he or hopefully she can teach you. this is getting crazy, yall need to get the basics down or your gonna get hurt eventually
I think you meant this for here.
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4620&p=52597#p52597 (http://www.gz250bike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4620&p=52597#p52597)
:) :cool:

Steveoh
07-30-2011, 09:53 AM
Geezer??? I wish that I had known that I should not test a motorcycle battery like a 9V battery, with my tongue, it hurts.

Anyway, yes, the bike is in neutral and the clutch lever is zipped locked closed. I am still testing the wiring harness since this is the only electrical item that I replaced before the bike would not start.

Steveoh
08-04-2011, 11:33 PM
Turned out to be a broken Stop switch wire in the wire loom I bought. I should be riding it tomorrow. Thanks for the support yall.

Water Warrior 2
08-05-2011, 01:48 AM
Good job tracking it down. Now it is time to ride.

geezer
08-05-2011, 11:18 AM
haha yeah whoops

Steveoh
08-05-2011, 09:40 PM
Got it together, It started up and ran smoothly with no choke at all. Squeezed the front brake and.....mush...new parts are coming.
At least I have two bikes.