WTB 2004-2007 running engine... my 06 blew after 2hrs /cry

[Pseudocyb]

:2tup:I bought a 2006 suzuki gz250 with 2000miles for $1500 off craigslist. The guy seemed honest and called me back today after i told him the engine blew on the way home. I asked him if he would help me pay for a new engine if i could find one at a reasonable price and he said he would think about it. I told him that if he had any idea that this was going to happen he should feel terrible because it almost killed me on the interstate. Anyway I am looking for a running motor of compatable year... I believe it is 2004-2007 but you guys would know much more than me.

I think it threw a piston and then basicly self destructed on the inside. when i rock the bike back and forth now I can hear stuff clanking around inside the engine like a maraca. awesome. Please Help 8-) ... I am in WI and have other wheels to travel with.

[alanmcorcoran]

That sucks. I suspect this was not an entirely unforeseen possibility. If you are a large person I would take the bike back and demand a refund. It's not worth it to spend the time and money necessary to re-engine the bike IMHO.

If you are a small person (like myself) perhaps you have some larger friends or law enforcement acquaintances.

A 2006 Suzuki with 2000 miles on it is essentially brand new - something does not smell right here.

[bonehead]

Or, do you have a 12 ga shotgun, or a .357, or .44 handgun? Looking down those barrels is very intimidating.

[Pseudocyb]

yeah I don't know the policy on craigslist purchases but i believe i have no ground to stand on with a no contract agreement. I am looking into something called a "lemon law" in minneasota. I suspect as he said that he wont take it back, but if I do have ground to stand on with the "lemon law" and i threaten to sue under that law his mind may change. I told the guy that if he had any idea that there was major issue about to go wrong that he should feel terrible because he almost killed me. I came to stop in interstate trying to get off and cars had to drive around me while I was at stop on dashed line between shoulder and slow lane. I don't really know what to do but i am going to call my lawer friend right now and ask about it. thanks guys 8-) cheers!!

[alantf]

I'm not American, so don't quote me, but I remember someone on the site mentioning lemon laws, a couple of years ago, & the reply was that it only applies to cars, not bikes. I hope I'm wrong. Good luck. :)

Just did a search for "lemon laws" & it brought up a couple of answers. Try it & see if it's any help to you. However, your lawyer friend will probably be MUCH more knowledgeable than any of us. :2tup:

[Pseudocyb]

yeah i spoke with my lawyer friend and I don't have any ground to stand on due to the fact that there was no agreement as well as the fact that it doesn't apply bikes. 8(. however I have a friend that is a bike mechanic and we are going to look into fixing it. sigh. I am wondering what years the manuals found at viewtopic.php?f=7&t=29 (http://www.gz250bike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=29) apply to. I have a 2006 gz250 and I am hoping to provide some informational help to my mechanic friend before he comes over today. I downloaded all 3 files from that link and saw copyright of 1998. anyone know? I am looking for chilton manuals right now. thanks you guys. I am pretty sure that the engine is toast and I am still looking into purchasing a running engine if anyone has one. I will have more details tomorrow about the problem with my bike.

[alantf]

Apart from a few minor changes (such as the newer bikes not having a light switch) the GZ hasn't changed over the years. The manuals found on this site should cover all years.

[blaine]

Welcome.The manuals on here will cover all years.The only difference was a combustion chamber redesign in 04.
:cool:

[mrlmd1]

If he knew of any defect in the bike beforehand that he didn't disclose to you, you might have a case, but if you bought it as is, and it was running fine when you drove it away, you are probably screwed. Did you check to see if there was the proper amount of oil in it (looking into the site glass) before you left with it?
All the engines are basically the same, and one from any year will fit. Check out craigslist again (or crazedlist for a much wider search) or eBay.

[music man]

I have another question for you. You say you were riding on the interstate, just how fast were you going on said interstate? And how far did you ride it on the interstate?

[alanmcorcoran]

There's a good possibility it was either low on oil, leaking oil or some other problem related to oil/lubrication. It's an air-cooled bike and if they are low on oil, it doesn't take much for them to overheat, cook the innards and seize up in some fashion. Warped or cracked head, hairline crack in the block, there's a whole host of problems that render the bike close to worthless, but still able to go for a few hundred more miles until the inevitable. Totally sucks that you are out the $1500. I'd contact craiglist and see if this is a first offense for this guy or if he's got a history of shady dealings.

[Pseudocyb]

Thanks you guys for the help and in response to the questions. yes i checked the oil, it was clean and at the proper level and i was going around 65 to 70 for about an hour. I am going to keep looking for a replacement motor.

[alantf]

i was going around 65 to 70 for about an hour.

Hate to say it, but you were pushing the GZ at the top end of it's performance, with an engine that wasn't fully broken in. You really shouldn't have been doing more than ½ to ¾ throttle. We've had other reports in the past of people blowing up their engines doing exactly the same thing. The GZ is essentially a town bike, &while it's perfectly possible to ride it like you did, the GZ doesn't like it. :cry:

[bonehead]

i was going around 65 to 70 for about an hour.

Hate to say it, but you were pushing the GZ at the top end of it's performance, with an engine that wasn't fully broken in. You really shouldn't have been doing more than ½ to ¾ throttle. We've had other reports in the past of people blowing up their engines doing exactly the same thing. The GZ is essentially a town bike, &while it's perfectly possible to ride it like you did, the GZ doesn't like it. :cry:
:plus1: :oops:

[Pseudocyb]

It threw one of the injectors and mashed the crap out of the piston. It's pretty bad lol. yeah i was reading about that and kinda realizing that the bike is not meant to be run like that. bummer. Good news is I have the bike in about 200 pieces and I now only need a new top end piston & cylinder though which is beter than a whole engine... maybe 8-) ... either way I trying to make the best of it. thanks you guys for the help. also if there is a way to upload pics I bet you guys would have a laugh. I suppose I will post a new message about needing a a new head piston sleve and gaskets /sigh 8-) thanks guys.

[alanmcorcoran]

I've ridden mine at that speed more than once for an hour without incident and, almost three years after purchase, I still am shy of the "5K" final break-in period. Maybe I was just lucky. You really can't go anywhere of significant distance in CA without going 65 (as it is, you are risking obliteration on the freeway - you really need to be able to maintain 70-75.) Since I bought my "big bike" the only time i take the Geezer on the freeway is to ride the 38 miles to the dealer where I have it serviced.

[blaine]

It threw one of the injectors
You lost me,the G.Z. has a carburetor. :??: I still think it would be cheaper to buy a complete engine than fixing your own.
:) :cool:

[Moedad]

I've ridden mine at that speed more than once for an hour without incident and, almost three years after purchase, I still am shy of the "5K" final break-in period. Maybe I was just lucky.

When I sold it, my GZ wasn't quite to 5K yet either. I rode at 65 - 70 for an hour (give or take) more than a few times.

[Water Warrior 2]

It threw one of the injectors
You lost me,the G.Z. has a carburetor. :??: I still think it would be cheaper to buy a complete engine than fixing your own.
:) :cool:
I think he means a valve let go and that would certainly trash a few inner parts.

[alantf]

if there is a way to upload pics I bet you guys would have a laugh.

Click on post reply > browse > add the file > place in line :2tup:

BTW. From the varied replies, it seems that some of us believe in a thorough break in period & some of us don't. Some of us are happy running at 70 MPH for two hours & some of us aren't. Some of us have blown up their engines & some of us haven't. You said that the guy seemed honest, so I think you'll have to give him the benefit of the doubt. Seems to me that you were one of the unlucky minority that weren't so lucky. It might be something to do with the fact that the GZ is one of the cheapest bikes around, & quality control at the factory has to take a back seat (dunno, but that's just a guess) :)

[Pseudocyb]

yeah I mean valves sorry it threw one of the valves into the chamber and chewed it up real bad. anywho I am going to keep looking around for a new head and piston. if anyone hears of anything I would love a reply and I will be glad to pay decent for head and piston considering oem would cost more than the bike did for parts. or the original post of whole engine. thanks you guys I appreciate the help.

[mrlmd1]

Look on the For Sale section on here. Today there's a bike being parted out that was rear ended. The motor is probably fine, call him up.

[blaine]

Look on the For Sale section on here. Today there's a bike being parted out that was rear ended. The motor is probably fine, call him up.

This the link.
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=4317&p=47854#p47854 (http://www.gz250bike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=4317&p=47854#p47854) :cool: :)