My GZ

[2wheelerwill]

New guy here, Ive had my GZ for about a year now but new to the forum. I also have started a bobber project as of last week. So far muffler and handlebars are the only mods but there is alot of stuff on its way in the mail so more pics to come. Hope you enjoy the video.On the fence about the muffler, it sounds good but the placement puts it right behind you so its quite loud.
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[mole2]

Nice looking bike and I'm looking forward to your project. There's been a few around here who have made bobbers and I'm beginning to like a lot of them.

:)

[blaine]

Welcome.Looking forward to seeing more pictures of your project.
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:2tup:

[emory70]

i'd like to see a side shot of the bike that shows the muffler

[2wheelerwill]

ok well the brutal battle was taken off of here, didnt bother me much i work with a bunch of cynical old men as it is, so nothing new. but anyways in the middle of all the ranting no one suggested to what the idle should be. I did adjust the idle myself, and being a car mechanic and this being my first bike i adjusted it as i would a car and believe me thats not the first time i did something wrong but thats how you usually find out the right things, im just hoping i havent caused much damage to the engine. also as far as performance my acceleration has actually smoothed out. As far as top speed goes i havent tried yet. but this bike is a runner so far my longest trip was from Springfield, Mo. to Kansas City, Mo. and back good for 400 miles round trip. If anyone knows about what rpm the idle should be at please post.

Ps- Awhile back when i went to bikes blues and bbq, i saw a yahama warrior with the nicest stock seat i had ever seen, well i guess i underestimated the seat size......by alot..so moments after i recieved my package today with such excitement, it was shortly followed by sorrow. lol. so if anyone was wondering...no a yamaha warrior seat will not fit on a gz, well not properly or without heavy modding. might use it to re-skin my seat though.

I welcome all advice

heres the new idle
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heres the muffler side per request

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[patrick_777]

2wheelerwill - On behalf of the site ownership and less-antagonistic members (of which I am not necessarily a part of), I apologize for the thread-jacking.

Carry on.

[Sarris]

1200 to 1400 rpm. I know that sounds a bit high, but the GeeZer needs that to keep up oil pressure and not overheat at idle.

Welcome to our nightmare.

:lol: :2tup:

[2wheelerwill]

Thanks for the info sarris, and thanks for the apology patrick lol. Tulsa huh do you go to BBB in fayetteville?

[Easy Rider]

but anyways in the middle of all the ranting no one suggested to what the idle should be.

I don't "force" my advice on anybody so I was waiting for you to ask. Maybe I missed it in all the flack. :)

Sarris provided the official spec.; my guess is that you presently have it set in the 6-800 range
so it could be about half what it's supposed to be.

I used to set mine by ear and run it up until the thump-thump smoothed out to the point where
the individual strokes weren't evident. I think that is about the right point but never had it
checked to be sure.

If you find a clip-on inductive tach, just remember to set it for "double fire" or the tach will read
twice the actual RPM.......and you will still have it too low. :tup:

[patrick_777]

Tulsa huh do you go to BBB in fayetteville?

No, but I have many friends that make it a group ride.

[ncff07]

Bikes Blues and BBQ!!! Now your talking! Fayetteville, Arkansas home of the Razorbacks! Woo Pig Sooie!! LOL that is a HUGE meet. Its next month and runs from sept 29th to oct 2nd if i remember correct.

[2wheelerwill]

ya i get free room and board and free food lol my friends dad runs like 5 concession trailers down there every year.

ps- update on the build got my whitewalls and my sidemount license plate holder today. gonna have to send my rear back because the whitewall isnt as wide as the picture shows god online shopping sucks

[ncff07]

you didnt go by tire size???

[blaine]

you didnt go by tire size???

I think he is saying that the white wall is much narrower than anticipated.
:rawk: :)

[2wheelerwill]

Indeed, the picture showed a full white wall and what i received was a white wall that was half as wide as the front tire. They are very nice though.

[2wheelerwill]

*UPDATE* Well when measuring everything for tire fit I forgot a very important clearance, the one between my tire and my chain. Chock another one up to inexperience. bah. Called the place I got the tires from, seems to be a pretty painless return, thank god. Unfortunately I'll probably have to order more tires before I get my refund, not much meat left on the rear. Got my lowering kit today but until I get my tail light for my side mount and I can remove the tail mount I don't want to put it on. I swear by the time I get done with this project I'm gonna be too tired to even enjoy it lol. : D

Hi-Five to all the people who have completed their projects!

[ncff07]

you didnt go by tire size???

I think he is saying that the white wall is much narrower than anticipated.
:rawk: :)

i get it now. the white on the side is narrower. i am sofa king we todd ed sometimes! :retard:

[2wheelerwill]

*UPDATE* Not a big one but I finally got my turn signals from China, after about a week and a half. Also bought one of those "Cool Blue Headlights". Well the first thing I noticed about my "High Quality" turn signals are that they are pretty much useless in the daylight, but considering that you aren't supposed to have any at all on a bobber/chopper I think they will do just fine. They are $2 a pair so I'm not crying lol. Later today I should be fitting the Hardtail/Lowering conversion and may lay some paint on the front fender and chrome parts. Still haven't decided between semi-gloss and matte for the main color of the bike. I do however know that all the chrome and highlight parts on the bike will be gloss so they will get painted today
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[Water Warrior 2]

2Ww, you got your monies worth. You better brush up on your hand signals because those little guys wouldn't light up the inside of a cow. And they are far too close together to do anything but confuse drivers. :lol: :lol:

[mrlmd1]

They may also not be legal for street use for both of those reasons. Can you separate them for more distance between them?

[2wheelerwill]

really there isn't much of anywhere to mount them further apart. Maybe under the fork tower. For now, they are just to say i have turn signals.

Ps- I know me hand signals arrrrrrrgg

Pss- Got the lowering kit on with some heavy handiness but its on there. Its kinda fun to ride lol I feel like a bobble head. Pics to come later, its time for dinner : D

[emory70]

yeah, i can see the critics chomping at the bit over them blinkers.

[Water Warrior 2]

Maybe it's just me but I like bright noticeable signals and other needed lights. We have enough half blind cagers out there without making it more difficult for them to see us. Extra running lights and reflective tape are often the only hint to a cager that we really are not an illusion on the road. It might also make us a better target but at least one they can see the target easily. :biggrin:

[emory70]

i wanna change the lights on mine for some led units. brighter, less current draw, and longer lasting. cooler looking would be a bonus. who am i kidding? the look is really all i want, but i don't want the bike to be invisible.

[2wheelerwill]

i wanna change the lights on mine for some led units. brighter, less current draw, and longer lasting. cooler looking would be a bonus. who am i kidding? the look is really all i want, but i don't want the bike to be invisible.

Unfortunately the biggest source for these lights are the web and you never really know until you receive them in the mail. I don't know about where you live but i don't really have a selection of custom bike stuff available locally. If you have the money you can go to the dealership and get some custom stuff that are meant for other bikes and fit them to yours with some modifications.

[emory70]

i hear ya. i'm still in the planning stage now. trying to figure out how i wanna cut up my fenders. trying to keep it a total package, not just an assortment of things i like. i used to work with a guy that did that to his 48 chevy coupe. everything he saw that he liked he slapped on that poor car.

[2wheelerwill]

I'm on the fender stage also, I spose the best thing to do is start with the biggest design you have and work back. Its kinda hard to put back on what you've cut off lol. I also have plans to remount the fender and remove the mounting bar above, but that is only if I don't like what becomes of the stock fender. I did get white walls and was planning a rat rod style bike but I'm not sure what it will be at this point. The only sure thing is that it will be mine. I have been gettin some flack from my friends with motorcycles about putting money into this bike lol. They're just haters, hardly any of em can keep with my in the turns, and to me thats what riding a motorcycles all about, left, right, left, left, left, deja vu. lol

[emory70]

i would suggest getting a used fender to play with and practice on. if yer gonna cut a lot, i'd further suggest getting the underfender/support thingy. that's probably what i'm gonna do

[UH40]

Hey there 2wheelerwill

I am new to the Forum but I was sitting here reading stuff - I just recently (6 days ago) purchased a 2005 GZ250 and she is like new - sat in garage most of her life - However after taking her to a shop to get the Carb done, I thought the idle was too high - so I re-adjusted the idle lower, now I am reading here in your thread that the idle needs to be higher then one would expect? This bike is my 6th motorcycle, but I have never had one this small (249cc's) and never an air-cooled bike - does the 250 require a higher idle? I just yesterday finished a 1200 mile trip on her in 3 days and now I am hoping that I did not do any engine damage. I just cranked her up and she sounds fine engine wise... Still I am now thinking I should have trusted the mechanic and not my ears - hehehe

- UH40

[Water Warrior 2]

I think the idle specs call for 1300-1400 RPM at idle. This will promote oil circulation and better breathing to help cool the bike at stops. Easy will correct me if I am wrong. :lol: :lol:

[blaine]

I think the idle specs call for 1300-1400 RPM at idle. This will promote oil circulation and better breathing to help cool the bike at stops. Easy will correct me if I am wrong. :lol: :lol:

:plus1: It can't idle as low as a v- twin for the reasons that W.W stated.

[alantf]

I think the idle specs call for 1300-1400 RPM at idle.

The handbook quotes 1200 - 1400. :2tup:

[UH40]

Thanks guys...

I will be doing some post roadtrip maintenance today - so I am going to re-adjust the idle back up...

Love your Forum so far - I have been a member for only 2 days and already lots of activity - you all are a great group!

-=UH40=-

[Water Warrior 2]

Thanks guys...

I will be doing some post roadtrip maintenance today - so I am going to re-adjust the idle back up...

Love your Forum so far - I have been a member for only 2 days and already lots of activity - you all are a great group!

-=UH40=-
Heh heh, just wait till we start picking on you. One of the more fav activities.

[ncff07]

Heh heh, just wait till we start picking on you. One of the more fav activities.

for the old farts??? :poke2:

:lol:

[Sarris]

I resemble that remark.

:lol: :fu: :lol:

[UH40]

hahaha - well - I pick back :) isnt that what makes it all fun - hahaha

[2wheelerwill]

Well quick update, got my new tires on whitewall in front, no whitewall in the rear, im just gonna have to paint it, got the risers on and thats about it for now still need to shape the fenders and get my sidemount license plate holder on, then all that is left is paint and what im gonna paint lol.

edit ill have some quick pics up in a bit

ps- its dirty i know, but its been raining here and i ride in it so there is no point in washin

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[gypsyspit]

I know this is an old post but Im curious as to where this project got to. and what muffler was used? and a re jet?

[northsidegz]

I'm almost positive he put on an Emgo shorty. I have one sitting in a cabinet in my garage that I had purchased dirt cheap on ebay and I was going to have installed on my GZ and it looks exactly like what he was showing in the videos. I'm guessing he had to reject the carbs to get the proper fuel/air mixture as a result of the new muffler, but he'd have to advise what he did there.

[PimpS]

Guys, just curious: how do you rejet the carbs to get proper fuel/air mixture, is there any recipe or you need to try it with trial and errors? Is it measureble or you have to rely on your/mechanics feelings/senses?