My Triumph/BMW Dealership

[New GZ250]

Just took my Bonneville down for the 500 mile maintenance, and went home on a 2010 Triumph Scrambler 900. Anyway the Dealership supplies free loaners while your bike is in the shop. A real plus, drop your bike off and you have a ride home, which makes my wife very happy. She doesn't have to drop me off or take me to get the bike when the service is complete. I think it a great idea to introduce their customers to what is new on the market, might even turn into a sale. No mileage limitation on the loaner, just bring it back with a full tank of gas. I'm lov'in it!
:)

[Easy Rider]

just bring it back with a full tank of gas.

And no scratches !! :skull:

If you don't mind, I'm sure seveal of us would be interested in what that initial service is going to cost you.......or is it included in the purchase price ??

[New GZ250]

[quote="New GZ250":3mw218yh]just bring it back with a full tank of gas.

And no scratches !! :skull:

If you don't mind, I'm sure seveal of us would be interested in what that initial service is going to cost you.......or is it included in the purchase price ??[/quote:3mw218yh]

Install a Bonneville "SE" Tachometer Kit and the 500 mile service, estimate is $385.40 (Tach install is about $100.00) So the service is about $285.40 with a loaner.
Not bad!
Yes no scatches or dents, as they say you drop it you pay for it!
:2tup:

[Water Warrior 2]

The free loaner is a good selling tool. A friend of mine dropped off a 650 BMW and rode a really big sweet BMW touring bike home. He refused to return the touring bike after 2 days on it.

[New GZ250]

The free loaner is a good selling tool. A friend of mine dropped off a 650 BMW and rode a really big sweet BMW touring bike home. He refused to return the touring bike after 2 days on it.

Think the loaner program this dealer has, must bring business in the front door. Think this is the major reason they provide the loaners, have noticed they sell at the end of the season. Have seen their loaner bikes on Craigslist, they probably break even when they sell them. Don't know if they have any BMW loaners, I do know they have at least three loaners as the bike and keys say #3. Makes my life easier. I'm paying for the loaner with the shop services they are performing, I'm no fool, not many things in life are free!

[Water Warrior 2]

The loaner is also a demo bike plain and simple. So the company accountant will just keep writing it off one month at a time until it sells. A good acct will make sure they never just break even on a bike.

[New GZ250]

The loaner is also a demo bike plain and simple. So the company accountant will just keep writing it off one month at a time until it sells. A good acct will make sure they never just break even on a bike.

How right you are!
:2tup:

[dhgeyer]

A couple of years ago, when I had service done on my 1996 R850R, Max's BMW gave me a brand new (and in this case I mean brand new - 11 miles on the clock) R1200GS to go play with. Fifty miles home and fifty miles back. In this case the convenience worked, but the sales angle did not, as I learned that I don't particularly care for the GS, and when I did buy a new BMW is was an updated Roadster instead. Max doesn't do the loaner program anymore. They will pick up and deliver your bike anywhere in New England for free if the service is over a certain minimum, which with a BMW it will be.

Not sure about my local BMW/Triumph dealership. They used to do loaners, but I'm not sure if they still do or not, as I haven't had them do any service on my bikes in years. They will pick up and deliver for free, but only locally.

[Easy Rider]

Max doesn't do the loaner program anymore.

It only takes ONE accident with a greedy rider and/or shyster lawyer to screw up a good thing.

[dhgeyer]

Max doesn't do the loaner program anymore.

It only takes ONE accident with a greedy rider and/or shyster lawyer to screw up a good thing.

I don't know if that had anything to do with it or not. My guess is it was more of a case of a slight change in business model due to the rather astounding growth the business had, particularly in the area of service. They are pretty consistently the top dollar earning BMW motorcycle service department in the USA. Their service wing is as big as the average car dealership's, only with smaller and more bays. They have two vans and two full time drivers picking up and delivering bikes from as far away as Connecticut and Vermont. If they tried to cover that with loaners, they'd have to have a pretty big fleet of them. I'm guessing it's more cost effective to do what they're doing.

They still have a small number of demo bikes, particularly in the more popular models they sell.

[Easy Rider]

They still have a small number of demo bikes, particularly in the more popular models they sell.

And they might still do a loaner, for the right person......if you ask.
Then again, maybe not.

[Water Warrior 2]

Most dealers would probably allow a demo on a used bike but a ride on a new bike puts it in a used category real quick. A demo on a slightly used newer bike might be the best you can get in some cases.

[dhgeyer]

Most dealers would probably allow a demo on a used bike but a ride on a new bike puts it in a used category real quick. A demo on a slightly used newer bike might be the best you can get in some cases.

Max's BMW is the only dealership I know of that sets aside a certain number of new bikes as demos. They sell them off, labeled as such, when the new model year comes out, or, if there are no changes to the model for a new year, then they keep using them and sell them off when there is a change. If you look at their website at the right time of year, you see low mileage bikes labeled as demos for sale. Smaller dealers could not afford to do this. Max probably can't afford not to.

When I was about to buy my Vulcan 1500 Classic FI new in 2002, Jon's Cycle Barn let me take it for a ride. But they and I were pretty sure I was going to buy it, which I did.

[alanmcorcoran]

The loaner is also a demo bike plain and simple. So the company accountant will just keep writing it off one month at a time until it sells. A good acct will make sure they never just break even on a bike.

I'm just a simple business guy, but a writeoff is a cost, in real money, that comes right off your bottom line. It is not a magical profit fairy. The loaner idea may be a good one, and it may even contribute to profitable sales, but the implication that transforming a brand new bike into a demo and then selling it at a reduced price is an automatic moneymaker (because you "wrote it off") is magical thinking. More than likely, the inventory at the dealership is "Floor-planned" and, in addition to losses associated with depreciation, mileage and maintenance, there are probably also carrying costs associated with unsold product, although, given the ridiculous interest rates of late, they probably aren't much.

Also, having sold vehicles (both new and demo's) it's been my experience that it's the sales manager and the trade-in appraiser that make good (or bad) deals. Accountants can tell you how bad or good after the fact, and provide cost info prior, but they typically have nothing to do with sales negotiations.

One thing is true: dealers are not in business to "break even." But it does happen sometimes, as do outright losses, typically when a trade is overvalued or a bike/car sits on the floor past its birthday.

[Zackman]

Our Lexus dealership (25 miles away) provides loaners for "free" ( ;) ). It has been a really nice program and we always love driving the new models around town. They also have "CROWN LEXUS DEALERSHIP ONTARIO, CA" on the back, so I guess they get some free advertising too.

Idk if I would except a loaner. Considering that I probably couldn't afford to buy the new bike if I wrecked it. It is the same reason I don't want to test ride any new bikes...

[Water Warrior 2]

I will more than likely be looking for some demo rides next year with a cruiser in mind. A mid size cruiser similar to Lynda's M-50 would be nice. Not too big and not too small. My truck will be paid for in 2 years and I hate being out of debt. It's just so financially responsible I can't grasp the concept.

[dhgeyer]

I will more than likely be looking for some demo rides next year with a cruiser in mind. A mid size cruiser similar to Lynda's M-50 would be nice. Not too big and not too small. My truck will be paid for in 2 years and I hate being out of debt. It's just so financially responsible I can't grasp the concept.

Left to my own devices, I'd be like you. But, I have this Angel (literally) named Sue whispering in my ear, making me be responsible all the time. Man, I hate when she does that! Anyway, we haven't owed money on a vehicle in about 10 years, and we even paid off the house. We don't owe anybody a dime. It does feel kind of strange, but times being what they are, and likely to get much worse, I'm glad that I've listened to her.

[BillInGA]

We don't owe anybody a dime.

FREEDOM!!! Something we all should aspire to. My hat's off to you!

Edited to clarify quote attribution

[dentheman]

Even an old, used, dinged, high mileage bike for a loaner would tend to bring in customers who need their bikes serviced, I would think. And the dealer would still make a few $$ when it came time to sell it in the end. No depreciation of a new bike to worry about.

[motofeast]

i bought new bike Triumph Tiger SE. (Special Edition) is upper model of triumph tiger. It was firstly introduced in 1994 and has evolved in as a well-rounded sport. It is an adventure sports bike. It has been designed to be more versatile. It gives great riding experience when coupled with helmets (http://www.leatherup.com/l/Motorcycle-Helmets/12.html)
. It is the ABS model of the basic model. Triumph has also introduced two new color schemes Matt Graphite and Matt Black. SE model also features Side-bags and Hand-guards that match the body color. The 1050cc three-cylinder, four-stroke, DOHC, liquid cooled engine roars back on throttle with the power of 113bhp@ 9,400 RPM and torque of 100nm@ 6,250 RPM. saddlebags (http://www.leatherup.com/c/Motorcycle-Saddle-Bags/2/151.html)
can be used with it for ensuring safety. It large fuel provides the real 200 mile touring range hence making it very suitable for long/ adventure bike. It can glide very lightly on twisty roars.Its ride is comfortable and quality is also awesome. Comfort has always been a strong point of Tiger series. It has adjustable sport suspension 17- inch sports tires with braking system developed by Nissan. Wind protection is also good. Riders can also wear joe rocket jackets for additional comfort.Antilock Braking System for the bike is designed very brilliantly to enhance control bike even under hard braking. ABS works on both wheels
independently and is very efficient.It is an all rounder!
Facts:

Engine and transmission:
Displacement: 1050cc
Engine type: In-line three, four-stroke, DOHC, liquid cooled
Power: 113.98 HP@ 9400 RPM
Torque: 98 @ 6250 RPM
Compression Ratio: 12.0:1
Bore x stroke: 79.0 x 71.4 mm
Valves per cylinder: 4
Fuel system: Multipoint electronic fuel injection
Gearbox: 6-speed
Final drive: Chain
Clutch: Wet. Multi-plate

Brakes and wheels:
Front suspension: Showa 43mm upside down forks with adjustable preload.
Rear suspension: Showa Mono-shock with adjustable preload
Tires:
Front: 120/70-ZR17
Rear: 180/55-ZR17
Brakes:
Front: Double disc, ABS
Rear: Single disc, ABS

Dimensions:
Seat height: 835 mm
Height: 1,320 mm
Width: 838.2 mm
Length: 2,110 mm
Wheelbase: 1,510 mm

Physical capacities:
Gross weight: 232 kg
Fuel capacity: 20 L
Color options: Mat

[5th_bike]

Triumph Tiger SE.

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The styling reminds me of the Moto Guzzi Breva 1100 - Without cylinders, and with a more Japanese headlamp.
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:roll:

[alantf]

Errrrrrrrrrr motofeast. Was this an ad for the bike. or do you have an interest in selling accessories? :whistle:

[Sarris]

Spam, spam, spam, spam.

:fu:

[blaine]

Spam, spam, spam, spam.

:fu:

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[New GZ250]

Lets see a real picture!