Dead dash

[souvlaki]

Hello ladies and gents, I have a dash that just died on me. After just a quick look I found this:

http://imgur.com/legiql.jpg

I took the dash cover off, and screwed it back in as best as I could to something like this:

http://imgur.com/GUVBKl.jpg

I still get nothing though. Is there a certain way to re-insert the cable? Maybe I need a new one?

[bonehead]

I have to ask, why 3 posts for the same thing?
BTW I have no idea as how to fix your problem

[alantf]

(1)I have a dash that just died on me. (2) Maybe I need a new one?

(1) I think you'll find it's called a SPEEDOMETER. A dash is something that you'll find in a CAR! :whistle:

(2) There's only one way to find out. Disconnect the bottom end from the drive unit in the wheel. As you turn one end of the cable, if the other end turns, it's o.k. It could just be that when the top end came adrift, the bottom end (square drive) has come out of the drive thingy. If the cable's o.k., make sure both ends are seated properly. Once you get it working properly, gently nip up the screwed ends with a pair of grips to stop them coming loose again. I suspect that the cable is not broken, because the same thing happened to me, due to them not nipping the top end up, from the factory. :2tup:

Why is your post so wide? I've got to scroll left & right to read it. :??:

[Easy Rider]

Why is your post so wide? I've got to scroll left & right to read it. :??:

OK, let's all beat up on the newbie.........NOT. :roll:

He posted the same thing 3 times and his images were WAY too big, at least in the first post.....but
none of that is earth shattering.

The center of the speedometer cable should stick OUT both ends......if you have the outer sheath loose......
like in the first picture you posted. Did you see the inside core while the top end was loose ??
If not, your cable is probably broken and you likely need a new one.

If you DID see the inside cable when it was loose, chances are good that you just didn't get it screwed on far enough
when you put it back together.

There is a gear on the front wheel assembly that turns the core inside the cable. The other end of that core turns
a mechanism inside the speedometer to make the reading.

Let us know how it turns out.
I will try to keep the lions at bay.............
(Which is funny 'cause I'm usually the one catching hell.......) :biggrin:

[5th_bike]

I see the inside core in the first picture. It looks though like the thingy is bent. Unless souvlaki can straighten it out and the core turns freely inside the cable, it's a new cable...

[Water Warrior 2]

If the speedo cable just came loose and it still works then I would suggest pulling the inner speedo core out and lubing it while you are at it.

[alantf]

I see the inside core in the first picture. It looks though like the thingy is bent. Unless souvlaki can straighten it out and the core turns freely inside the cable, it's a new cable...

WRONG! :)

It comes bent. :2tup: (and so did the new one I bought when mine snapped)

[bonehead]

I was'nt beating up on him, I was truly wondering why it was posted 3 times.
Maybe because of different pictures?

[dhgeyer]

Same thing happened on mine a month or so back, and on my Kawasaki Concours a year or so ago. It's a common occurrence with his type of speedometer connection. I agree with most of what's been said so far, except the part about "nipping" the screwed ends. I would suggest, instead, using blue Loctite, as this will also hold the unit in place without damaging anything, and you can still get it off when you need to.

Also, some motorcycles do indeed have dashboards - namely the bigger ones with lots of instrumentation. My Concours had, not only a large instrument display surface, but also a horizontal surface behind the windshield and instruments that could only logically be called a dashboard.

[souvlaki]

Sorry about that. I tried to edit the pictures to a smaller version and it must have resubmitted it.

Anyways, I rode the bike down the street while holding the metal tip with my fingers in one hand and it DOES NOT turn or rotate at all. Can I assume its broken somewhere between the wheel and end on the other side? The wheel end seems to be pretty firm on there. I dont even know how I'm going to get that off! haha

[Easy Rider]

The wheel end seems to be pretty firm on there.
I dont even know how I'm going to get that off! haha

It should unscrew in a manner similar to the top end.
A pair of common pliers would probably help.

It may not be broken. Since the top was loose, the bottom end might
have just jumped out of it's "hole".
Try twisting the top end while pushing firmly on it; it might snap back into place.
Then......it might be broken too.

P.S. You can always LOOK at your posts after they are done....and delete them and start over if necessary.
Once you have sent a picture up, you can't edit it IN the posted message.

[alantf]

Mine snapped about 1" from the wheel end.

[souvlaki]

EDIT: I'm pretty sure it's broken...what is the best place online to get a replacement?

I got the other end of the cable off (by the wheel)

http://imgur.com/EYwCwl.jpg

I turned the end with a screwdriver and saw that the other end wasnt spinning and pulled out a little piece. It looks like the piece is made this way but obviously if its not tight enough to the cable, it cant spin it:

http://imgur.com/PrsCVl.jpg

Ideas on what to do next?

[Easy Rider]

EDIT: I'm pretty sure it's broken...what is the best place online to get a replacement?

Why is everybody allergic to the dealers ??

By the time you pay shipping, sometimes the price ends up being about the same anyway......and if it isn't right.........????

[alanmcorcoran]

I'm not allergic to dealers, but nine times out of ten, they have to order it online anyway, so... Plus, in my case, it usually means a half hour or more each way on the freeway. I suppose that could be a plus but some days one is pressed for time.

[blaine]

EDIT: I'm pretty sure it's broken...what is the best place online to get a replacement?

Why is everybody allergic to the dealers ??

By the time you pay shipping, sometimes the price ends up being about the same anyway......and if it isn't right.........????

:plus1: I find it just as cost effective to go to the dealer and no hassles.Plus he has my back when I need him.

[Water Warrior 2]

Six of one and half a dozen of the other. Sometimes going to the dealer is the only smart thing to do if you need a specific part that may be sort of iffy in the aftermarket. In that case the dealer has your back, has to come through cause he ordered that specific part for your specific bike. If you are looking for universal fit bits and pieces the aftermarket will definitely be cheaper 90% of the time. In my experience many dealers will gladly order aftermarket items for you Cause you ain't payin a factory price to anybody.

[Easy Rider]

Plus he has my back when I need him.

THAT is the most important point.

Recent events SHOULD make everyone think twice about this......but it probably won't.

In my local area, the BMW bike shop just closed. Now BMW owners have to go close to 90 miles for an authorized shop.

Except for Harley, there is only ONE other bike shop in town. Last fall they reduced their hours. From the looks of the showroom floor (the bikes sitting there haven't changed much since early spring), I'd say that they aren't doing real good at the moment.

If that shop should close up, a LOT of riders will be up the proverbial creek without a boat; some of them, no doubt, are the same ones that get all of their bags, windshields, helmets, riding gear, etc. "over the net" and don't think beyond saving a few pennies.

[bonehead]

EDIT: I'm pretty sure it's broken...what is the best place online to get a replacement?

Why is everybody allergic to the dealers ??

By the time you pay shipping, sometimes the price ends up being about the same anyway......and if it isn't right.........????

:plus1: I find it just as cost effective to go to the dealer and no hassles.Plus he has my back when I need him.
On the other hand, about the only thing my dealer has in stock is oil filters. Every thing I have ordered for the GZ has had to come from a warehouse, pay first and wait a week for it to arrive.

[souvlaki]

So uhhh, is it broken? I'm just taking a guess, I was hoping one of you guys could confirm this.

[dhgeyer]

On the other hand, about the only thing my dealer has in stock is oil filters. Every thing I have ordered for the GZ has had to come from a warehouse, pay first and wait a week for it to arrive.

Same here, except they don't always have the oil filter and the crush washer at the same time.

[Sarris]

So uhhh, is it broken? I'm just taking a guess, I was hoping one of you guys could confirm this.

It appears that the end has twisted off, so YES it appears to be broken.

:)

[souvlaki]

Can someone recommend the best site to get it ?

[Sarris]

I buy most proprietary parts from Ron Ayers. Here is the site for the microfiche. Just pick out the part and you can order it right up.

This is for a 2006 ($22.72 + shipping), but you should pick your year, although I'm fairly sure they're all the same. 2006 Speedo (http://fiche.ronayers.com/Index.cfm/Module/Main/TypeID/26/Type/Motorcycle/MakeID/2/Make/Suzuki/YearID/47/Year/2006/ModelID/7858/Model/GZ250/GroupID/373536/Group/SPEEDOMETER_)

Good luck.

:2tup:

[Easy Rider]

So uhhh, is it broken? I'm just taking a guess, I was hoping one of you guys could confirm this.

Yes. It appeared that you were confident in your "guess".
That piece you are holding in your OTHER hand pretty much proves it.