Proper parking protocol? And gear question?

[TheWife]

Just wondering if there are any specific laws/rules/etiquette regarding parking bikes in a parking lot. I felt kind of bad taking up a whole parking spot up front yesterday, but didn't want to to leave it open in the back and kinda figured there are laws against parking on the sidewalk :biggrin: I've seen bikes parked in the lines in the front of large parking lots, is that cool or no?

Also what do you guys do with your helmets when you leave the bike? I'm sure there's not a huge market for stolen pink helmets but I still feel weird just leaving it hanging on the handlebars- I've had one of my kid's drinks stolen out of a stroller by some punk girls (I guess they thought the military canteen was a flask and I was carrying alcohol around at a local festival midday?? idiots) so I know some people will take stuff just because they're idiots.

And just got in the boots I ordered. Irritated that they say "after riding".... so is there something specific to be looking for in protective foot gear? Steel toed? Or is just heavy leather okay?

Thanks!!

[dannylightning]

take off your seat, there are big tabs under your seat, you put your chin strap around one of the tabs and hang the helmet from it. put your seat back on and your helmet is locked up. there is also a nice little storage area under the seat if you have not found that out yet.

i see guys park in all kinds of places around here, things like that may vary from state to state.

your boots say after riding?? i am not sure what you are talking about

[alantf]

Over here, most parking lots have special areas for bikes, but quite often morons in cars will park across them to save themselves a 10 yard walk from the nearest available car space, so these days I don't feel particularly bothered about parking in a car space. As for helmets, I have a box on the back big enough to take two helmets plus a couple of light jackets. I like to get EVERYTHING out of sight so as not to tempt thieves.

[bonehead]

I'd say as long as the hashed area you park in isn't marked "no parking", go for it. Most parking lots are private property, except of course the obvious local, city, state, and federal govt.

Hang the helmet on the tabs under the seat like Danny said. The only way to get it off is to cut it, and that would'nt do them any good. :cool:

[Easy Rider]

Just wondering if there are any specific laws/rules/etiquette regarding parking bikes in a parking lot.

The rules are pretty much the same as for a car. If in a regular space, you need to be in the middle and out toward the isle so cars can see it BEFORE they whip into the space.

In most places, you can get away with parking in the "stripped" area at the end.......as long as it is NOT adjacent to a handicapped space; some of those are intended for use by vehicles with wheelchair lifts.

[Water Warrior 2]

Parking lots, privately owned or otherwise are usually deemed public thoroughfares if open to the public. The hash marks etc are normally off limits and a parking offence. These hash areas are to be kept clear to make allowances for large emergency vehicles to maneuver in tighter parking areas. This may not apply to all states, cities or parking lots. Local laws may differ. I just park in the middle of a regular space if I am alone.

[TheWife]

Alrighty, sounds good. I knew there's a space under the seat but it never would have occured to me to secure my helmet using the latches, thanks!!

[BillInGA]

If I'm riding with a buddy we'll double up in one space, otherwise I'll park right in the middle of the space. I try to keep my outermost wheel even with the adjacent cars.

I usually back in to a space, unless it's on a diagonal. I find it more comfortable to back in right after I've pulled up to the spot rather than back out when I'm leaving.

[MLGTIB]

I usually have my helmet bag in the little storage area so i just take it with me. I just dont like leaving it. In regards to parking, I park in any space i find. If i am making a run to the dealership for parts then i park on the sidewalk right in front because the sidewalk is really large there.

[Mercutio57]

In lots I park in the middle of a spot, but usually on the far end (that is, farthest from the stores). Out there it is much less congested, as NOBODY walks anymore, especially out here on Long Island. As for the brain bucket, I carry it with me.

[diffluere]

I usually park in my own spot. Since Gainesville is a scooter/motorcycle friendly area (for the most part) a lot of people just park up on the sidewalk, off to the side of the store. I don't like to do this because I'm still scared to ride up on something that's 4" tall and made of concrete. Some places have those ramps where you can get up easily. Some places, like the new Wal-Mart have scoot/bike parking. Some of my friends like to share a spot when we ride together, some of them think bikes should be allowed to take up their own spot and we park separately.

I try not to park next to bigass trucks or those white kidnapper-type work vans. I figure people won't see my bike around one of those and whip in to my spot and hit me.

I have one of those big metal u-locks used for bicycles, and I'll put it through my helmet's visor and around my sissy bar. If I'm at school ALL DAY I usually take it with me, because in Florida you never know when it might rain, and some college students are just jerks enough to try and pick the lock or mess with the helmet. Some people are brave enough to leave their helmets unlocked on the back of their bikes at school - not me!

[SuziQ07]

Just wondering if there are any specific laws/rules/etiquette regarding parking bikes in a parking lot. I felt kind of bad taking up a whole parking spot up front yesterday, but didn't want to to leave it open in the back and kinda figured there are laws against parking on the sidewalk :biggrin: I've seen bikes parked in the lines in the front of large parking lots, is that cool or no?

Also what do you guys do with your helmets when you leave the bike? I'm sure there's not a huge market for stolen pink helmets but I still feel weird just leaving it hanging on the handlebars- I've had one of my kid's drinks stolen out of a stroller by some punk girls (I guess they thought the military canteen was a flask and I was carrying alcohol around at a local festival midday?? idiots) so I know some people will take stuff just because they're idiots.

And just got in the boots I ordered. Irritated that they say "after riding".... so is there something specific to be looking for in protective foot gear? Steel toed? Or is just heavy leather okay?

Thanks!!

Hello! I'm just a new girl myself, but I thought I would chime in anyway...
Don't feel bad at all about taking up a whole parking spot...you're allowed! And be careful about parking in the lines in front of the parking lot...my dad got a ticket a couple of years ago for doing that at the Carousel Mall in Syracuse, NY.
I take my pink/butterfly helmet with me...don't think there's a huge market, but hey you never know what someone might think is funny. I've got to search around under my seat for that helmet hook too. Good to read this on the forum.
And it's funny because I just discovered the other day that my Harley boots have a small tag in the box that says "after riding." I believe their riding boots have a steel toe in them. I continue to wear my "after riding" boots when I ride and I think they're very adequate and safe.
Enjoy your new bike!

[Easy Rider]

And just got in the boots I ordered. Irritated that they say "after riding"....

And it's funny because I just discovered the other day that my Harley boots have a small tag in the box that says "after riding."

Ladies, please.......
I think you have the wrong impression of the "after riding" tag. Have either of you actually READ what it says on the tag ?? Maybe it is instructions for cleaning, oiling and/or polishing the riding boots.....after the ride !?!?!!? :shocked: :biggrin:

[bonehead]

Apres ski boots maybe?

[dannylightning]

And just got in the boots I ordered. Irritated that they say "after riding"....

And it's funny because I just discovered the other day that my Harley boots have a small tag in the box that says "after riding."

Ladies, please.......
I think you have the wrong impression of the "after riding" tag. Have either of you actually READ what it says on the tag ?? Maybe it is instructions for cleaning, oiling and/or polishing the riding boots.....after the ride !?!?!!? :shocked: :biggrin:

i am not quite sure that any one would make boots specifically for after riding, just about any boots are going to be good for riding, you do not need to have a steel toe, i see guys with no shirt and a pair of flip flops cruzing down the road all the time, only thing they are wearing is glasses, shorts and hopefully a pair of underwear haha.

i have a pair of harley shift boots and i love them. way better to ride in than any of my other boots, they do not have a steel toe. but the seem to set on my foot pegs so much better than regular boots, they also go half way up my legs. witch is good encase a bike ever does fall over on you and your legs gets cot under the exhaust pipe.

[alantf]

I've got to search around under my seat for that helmet hook too.

Actually there are two hooks - one on each side - so that if you've got a passenger, you can fasten both helmets. :2tup:

[bonehead]

I've got to search around under my seat for that helmet hook too.

Actually there are two hooks - one on each side - so that if you've got a passenger, you can fasten both helmets. :2tup:
Ok, they are'nt exactly "hooks", they are two peices of flat bar welded to the frame extending inward right around the deep part of the tool area.

[dannylightning]

I've got to search around under my seat for that helmet hook too.

Actually there are two hooks - one on each side - so that if you've got a passenger, you can fasten both helmets. :2tup:
Ok, they are'nt exactly "hooks", they are two peices of flat bar welded to the frame extending inward right around the deep part of the tool area.

yeah not hooks, more like a tab sticking like i mentioned, any one have pics of them. i no longer have my gz or i would take a pic to show you how it works..

when i got my gz it took me a few days to figure out where the helmet locks were, i think some one on here may have informed me where they were located.

[bonehead]

Oh ya, just hook your "d" rings on the helmet strap over it and replace your seat. About as secure as you can get.

[SuziQ07]

"i am not quite sure that any one would make boots specifically for after riding, just about any boots are going to be good for riding, you do not need to have a steel toe, i see guys with no shirt and a pair of flip flops cruzing down the road all the time, only thing they are wearing is glasses, shorts and hopefully a pair of underwear haha."

"i have a pair of harley shift boots and i love them. way better to ride in than any of my other boots, they do not have a steel toe. but the seem to set on my foot pegs so much better than regular boots, they also go half way up my legs. witch is good encase a bike ever does fall over on you and your legs gets cot under the exhaust pipe."

Very funny!! The tag has no information about cleaning and polishing etc. It's a Harley Davidson sales tactic that they use. Their boots are either for "riding" or "after riding." The riding boots are double the price. When I first went into my local Harley dealership in Syracuse, NY they must have known I was a newbe sucker right away because the salesgirl is like "you should really purchase the women's Harley riding boots...they're so much safer and heavier blah blah blah." I ended up buying my Harley boots at our Army/Navy camping supply store in town for a lot less. I had the same experience when I went shopping for a leather coat at Harley...I finally got fed up with the whole thing and I took the advice of people on this forum and ordered a Joe Rocket women's Luna 2.0 textile jacket. :biggrin:

[bonehead]

Now we know the rest of the story.

[alantf]

The riding boots are double the price....... I had the same experience when I went shopping for a leather coat at Harley

And that's not only in America. Last year I went to a Harley dealer's open day. My Interstate leather jacket (retro style) had set me back €200. The equivalent jacket (& in my opinion, not as well made) in the Harley Shop was over €600, but I suppose the Harley riders needed the sewn in Harley badge so they could remember who made their bike. :lol: :lol:

[SuziQ07]

The riding boots are double the price....... I had the same experience when I went shopping for a leather coat at Harley

And that's not only in America. Last year I went to a Harley dealer's open day. My Interstate leather jacket (retro style) had set me back €200. The equivalent jacket (& in my opinion, not as well made) in the Harley Shop was over €600, but I suppose the Harley riders needed the sewn in Harley badge so they could remember who made their bike. :lol: :lol:

That's too funny...I think you're right about those Harley people!! :lol:

[bonehead]

Now wait just a minute! Never mind. Not going to start that crap up again. :lol:

[Water Warrior 2]

Harley does have some nice gear. Their products are part of a life style that some folks choose. They market their life style vigorously and happen to sell some pretty good bikes as a sideline.

[TheWife]

What Suzi said as far as how I took the "after riding" tag. Just a sales tactic, but these in particular are extremely thin leather, lower than they looked online, no support at all. Feel safer in my fashion sneaks. It's a moot point as they're too small anyway. I'll just find a pair of sturdy Docs or cowgirl boots :D

I've seen jackets labeled as after riding too, guess it's just a way of saying biker style without biker protection.

[Water Warrior 2]

Check out RedWing for boots. Lynda is happy with the boots she bought there.

[diffluere]

I wear sneakers. I know it's unsafe but have you ever tried to walk back and forth to class in 85 degrees with a huge backpack? Not fun. I wore my boots this winter for warmth but for everyday I'll stick to my converse. Yes, I know this is not as safe, but I make bad choices like not wearing a jacket in said hot weather too. I DO always wear a fullface helmet though. Brains are the most important parts!


Harley stuff would be a LOT cooler if it didn't have harley logos all over it. They had a really nice white leather jacket I wanted but it had the huge harley crest on the back with some weird swirly tribal looking stuff. Not a fan; I'll stick to Icon and FieldSheer.

[frempath]

I park right outside my apartment and after watching an number of knobs just about hit it while parked in the center of the space, I decided to start parking across the space next to the wheel stop. So far my observations have been that folks see the bike and stop at about the same place, but the bike is 8-10 feet farther away from them. The GZ is small enough that I can still get turned out in a standard 9 foot wide space. I've also had a couple people with really tiny cars ask to share the space. No skin off my nose, so long as I can still get out and you seem like a nice neighbor.

[music man]

Yes, I know this is not as safe, but I make bad choices like not wearing a jacket in said hot weather too.



Like Me and Sarris, and others have said, At some point in certain climates you have to start taking the real possibility of heat strokes, and just plain not paying attention to what you are doing because of the heat factor into consideration.

I wear a jacket until I just cannot take it one more day, then the second it cools off enough at the end of the summer I put it back on.

[diffluere]

Thanks music man =) I was kinda scared I'd get blasted for that one. Today I went to the Leesburg rally, and I wore *HUGE GASP* sunscreen and a tank top. Well, I had a white 3/4 sleeve shirt on over the tank top on the way there, but once we got into the slow moving traffic around town, shirts became reduced in size and quantity. =P I did wear my jacket part of the way home, because it got dark. It's cold in Payne's Prairie at night!


Parking at a biker rally sucks! We ended up paying $3.50 per bike to park under some trees in a church parking lot. Backing up on dead leaves is NOT fun. This was definitely one day where I was glad I ride a 300 pound GZ instead of a huge 1200cc Harley!

[music man]

Thanks music man =) I was kinda scared I'd get blasted for that one. Today I went to the Leesburg rally, and I wore *HUGE GASP* sunscreen and a tank top.


Oh trust me, me and you are still gonna get blasted for saying that. I am still wearing my mesh jacket, I may be able to squeeze out a couple of more weeks with it on, but that is about it.

Now if I was going out of town on my bike, I could wear my mesh jacket easily into early June, but in town, getting caught at red lights every five seconds and sitting still more than you are moving, HELL NO.


The main important fact that you, me and everyone else always needs to remember is, its your skin your leaving on the pavement, and its you that has to know how much heat you can take baking on that bike in traffic. :rawk:

[Water Warrior 2]

One of my neighbors who also rides but wears next to nothing had a question for me. "Why do you wear all that heavy looking gear in the heat ?" ANWSER: Because I'd rather sit in a puddle of sweat than lay in a pool of my blood. A little harsh and over the top for an answer but I do wear ATGATT no matter what the weather. A good mesh jacket is actually cooler than going without, there is no direct sunshine on your skin to cook you. Same with riding pants and gloves. I doubt there is a single item of clothing that will do it all from cold to hot to rain to shine. I have 3 pair of pants, 3 jackets, 3 pairs of gloves, rain gear, cold weather gear, heated gear and all sorts of odds and ends. My next purchase will be a pair of nice cool but armored gloves. OH no, I might have to go for a long ride to find gloves. Bummer ! :lol:

[music man]

One of my neighbors who also rides but wears next to nothing had a question for me. "Why do you wear all that heavy looking gear in the heat ?" ANWSER: Because I'd rather sit in a puddle of sweat than lay in a pool of my blood. A little harsh and over the top for an answer but I do wear ATGATT no matter what the weather.


Exactly what does "heat" mean in Squamish Canada in the summertime, And do you ride year round?

[Easy Rider]

A good mesh jacket is actually cooler than going without, there is no direct sunshine on your skin to cook you.

I think your perspective is somewhat limited......by the area you live in, maybe.

While that is true to a point, it is ONLY to a point. Any place roughly south of St. Louis in the heat of the summer, on black asphalt, while not moving, with cages all around........the actual air temp. can be something like 110 F with a heat index (taking into consideration the humidity) of something like 130 F. Trust me, under those conditions, a mesh jacket is NOT cooler. Anything that reduces the aspiration cooling even the slightest WILL contribute to an increase in your core temperature and more water loss due to "run off".

There IS a point where the risk line for one kind of danger crosses the other one and becomes more important.

[music man]

I think your perspective is somewhat limited......by the area you live in, maybe.

While that is true to a point, it is ONLY to a point. Any place roughly south of St. Louis in the heat of the summer, on black asphalt, while not moving, with cages all around........the actual air temp. can be something like 110 F with a heat index (taking into consideration the humidity) of something like 130 F. Trust me, under those conditions, a mesh jacket is NOT cooler. Anything that reduces the aspiration cooling even the slightest WILL contribute to an increase in your core temperature and more water loss due to "run off".

There IS a point where the risk line for one kind of danger crosses the other one and becomes more important.


:jawdrop: :plus1: Me and Easy Rider 100% totally agree on something, did the earth shift off its axis or something :lol: .

By the way, I borrowed the last line of your post to put on my signature, hope you don't mind.

[Easy Rider]

By the way, I borrowed the last line of your post to put on my signature, hope you don't mind.

I'm humbled. :)

I wasn't really proud of the way the wording ended up though; I think it probably could be expressed better.

[Easy Rider]

:jawdrop: :plus1: Me and Easy Rider 100% totally agree on something, did the earth shift off its axis or something :lol: .

Is it a miracle.......or an omen ??

Better watch your back !!! :shocked: :crackup

[music man]

[quote="music man":1wzrjgfa] By the way, I borrowed the last line of your post to put on my signature, hope you don't mind.

I'm humbled. :)

I wasn't really proud of the way the wording ended up though; I think it probably could be expressed better.[/quote:1wzrjgfa]


Well when you edit it, I will change it to that then.

[burkbuilds]

I really miss my GZ's helmet under seat "locks", they worked great, and were easy to use. My Vulcan 500 came with a helmet melter, you hook your helmet on, lock it, and let go of the helmet and it hits the exhaust pipe and melts. :shocked: I finally just removed the one on the Vulcan and bought one that mounted to my handlebars. I wouldn't leave your helmet just hanging on the sissy bar or handlebars unsecured though, several people at my previous school lost helmets that way.

As for parking, park boldly, take up the space and don't feel badly. As someone pointed out on a past post here, he parked in a space at the mall and the lady next to him got out and started griping about him taking up that whole space for just one motorcycle, his reply, how many people are riding in your car lady? Since stats show that 78% of the commuter drivers in Metro Atlanta are riding solo, I don't feel bad taking up the entire space. Now, having said that, if I see another motorcycle parked in a spot and there's room for me to park without being to close to the other bike, or blocking them, I'll often park with them.

Good leather boots will offer you good protection. Steel toes are designed for crush resistance on a construction or manufacturing job and it is unlikely that they will make much of an improvement in an accident. Besides, steel toes get really cold in the Winter. A lot of construction workers I worked with over the years avoided using the steel toe boots unless management forced them to just because they make your toes feel colder in the Winter weather.

The Harley Riding boots I own are the most comfortable shoes I have, and that includes my tennis shoes, however, I found the zippers (made of vinyl not brass) to be of poor quality and after about a year of riding the leather was holding up well, but the zippers were shot. That's way to much money to pay, in my opinion, for a pair of riding boots that have to be replaced or have expensive repairs made to them in a year, so I went to Milwaukee for my next set of boots, not as comfortable, but still okay, and much better quality zippers and "eyes" for the laces. Let me add that I ride daily and wear the boots 10-12 hours a day, so that's probably pretty extreme compared to most riders needs, therefore, the zipper problem may not be an issue with someone who only wears the boots a few hours a week.

[Water Warrior 2]

[quote="Water Warrior":3fllxqzz]One of my neighbors who also rides but wears next to nothing had a question for me. "Why do you wear all that heavy looking gear in the heat ?" ANWSER: Because I'd rather sit in a puddle of sweat than lay in a pool of my blood. A little harsh and over the top for an answer but I do wear ATGATT no matter what the weather.


Exactly what does "heat" mean in Squamish Canada in the summertime, And do you ride year round?[/quote:3fllxqzz]
How does clear skies, sunshine and 90/100 F in the shade sound ? Yes it is hot with ATGATT but I manage. I can ride all year long but choose to ride very little in the winter. Squamish gets down to freezing and bit colder but not by much. I could easily ride to Vancouver in the winter but the foggy face shield exercise is a downer to a relaxed ride. Parts of the B.C. interior make Squamish look and feel cold in the summer. That is getting way too warm for me. I like this climate without the horrible extremes that some areas can have. The Canadian prairies can be hot in the summer and super cold in the winter. I have experienced temps colder than 50 below F and wind chill factors of well below 100 F. Would I move back to the prairies.............never never never !

[mrlmd1]

If you have a full face helmet and a sissy bar. lock the helmet on with a chain or cable lock, or the gun trigger lock like I previously posted.

[dannylightning]

Harley does have some nice gear. Their products are part of a life style that some folks choose. They market their life style vigorously and happen to sell some pretty good bikes as a sideline.

harley gear is nice and so are some of their bikes, wouldn't buy any thing with a big harley logo on it if i am not riding one. but things like boots and the gortex gloves i got from them are great.


yeah harley life style, harley riders, blah blah blah.. that is what i say, if i had the money i would buy a harley. they make a select few models that i would love to ride.

[Atlus]

This is a great thread for us newbs! I actually always wonder about the etiquette regarding this kind of stuff all the time. In terms of Jackets, do you guys typically lock them to your bikes as well or just carry them on a hot day?

Also, in terms of leg armor, I just wear jeans usually (though always full face helmet, jacket, and boots). Do people tend to follow that as well or do bikers wear leg armor as well?

[mrlmd1]

If you have a cable lock you can thread it through the arms of the jacket and lock it on to the bike along with the full face helmet.
You can get armored mesh riding pants if you want, cooler than jeans and have better abrasion protection too, altho a little pricey.

One way to beat the heat if you're just going out for a ride and don't have to go in to work or school is to carry a water bottle and wet yourself down under the mesh jacket and use the evaporation to take away the heat. There are evaporative vests also commercially made as well as an air conditioner than rides on the back of the bike and blows cold air through a hose into the rider's jacket, if you want to spend about $600. Just make sure you drink plenty of water to avoid dehydration when you ride in the heat.

[JWR]

Feet and hand protection is on the top of my list.
Even a dead stop fall can hurt those two places.

[Water Warrior 2]

If you want or must wear just denim there is an option for armor. Get the armor that dirt riders wear under their jerseys and pants. There is actually a fair selection on the market. Boots...........always, you only have 2 feet so make them last. Gloves ditto.

[Atlus]

Thanks for the responses guys! Any recommendations for a good, inexpensive pair of riding pants then? :2tup:

[Water Warrior 2]

Thanks for the responses guys! Any recommendations for a good, inexpensive pair of riding pants then? :2tup:
Check out the New Enough site. They have a fair selection of goodies and you might luck out in the closeout section. Last year's models are just as good as this year's models in most cases.

[Zackman]

If you have a cable lock you can thread it through the arms of the jacket and lock it on to the bike along with the full face helmet.
You can get armored mesh riding pants if you want, cooler than jeans and have better abrasion protection too, altho a little pricey.

One way to beat the heat if you're just going out for a ride and don't have to go in to work or school is to carry a water bottle and wet yourself down under the mesh jacket and use the evaporation to take away the heat. There are evaporative vests also commercially made as well as an air conditioner than rides on the back of the bike and blows cold air through a hose into the rider's jacket, if you want to spend about $600. Just make sure you drink plenty of water to avoid dehydration when you ride in the heat.

I bought one of these http://www.cyclegear.com/spgm.cfm?L1=5000&L2=42&L3=&L4=&item=TEI_6529-S_G , and I was kinda suspicious at first. The sales guy said it worked miracles. My first time using it I followed the instructions and put it on, I was out for 5 hours, and it was still cool when I got back home.
I live in the desert and it was about a 95-100 degree day :cry: and my torso was at a cool 60-70 degrees :rawk: !

I was so shocked at how well it works, and for $34 (military discount), it is so worth it. :2tup:

[Easy Rider]

I live in the desert and it was about a 95-100 degree day :cry: and my torso was at a cool 60-70 degrees :rawk: !

Might be worth a try and the price isn't too bad BUT.......
Notice that all the good testimonials come from the desert south west.....where they can use evaporative air conditioners because of the low humidity. I strongly suspect that it would not be nearly as effective, and maybe even counter productive, in places where the 100 degree temps are accompanied by 90% humidity......like the southern mid-west and south east.

The water in the vest needs to evaporate to provide any cooling effect.

[Zackman]

I live in the desert and it was about a 95-100 degree day :cry: and my torso was at a cool 60-70 degrees :rawk: !

Might be worth a try and the price isn't too bad BUT.......
Notice that all the good testimonials come from the desert south west.....where they can use evaporative air conditioners because of the low humidity. I strongly suspect that it would not be nearly as effective, and maybe even counter productive, in places where the 100 degree temps are accompanied by 90% humidity......like the southern mid-west and south east.

The water in the vest needs to evaporate to provide any cooling effect.

Well you soak it in cool water to activate the material inside. It isn't actually evaporating that much, it is dry to the touch and is cool. It might still work, but I didn't think about that.

[Easy Rider]

It isn't actually evaporating that much, it is dry to the touch and is cool. It might still work, but I didn't think about that.

I think you haven't thought it through all the way. Several of the testimonials lament the fact that it has to be "refilled" every 30 to 45 minutes. That bit about "activating" something is just marketing hype.

If it was not for evaporation, the cool water you put on it would be HOT in about 5 minutes just from your body alone, never mind the 100 degrees on the outside too.

The inside is dry to keep the water off your body. The outside can not be "dry" or it wouldn't work. :tup:

[Zackman]

It isn't actually evaporating that much, it is dry to the touch and is cool. It might still work, but I didn't think about that.

I think you haven't thought it through all the way. Several of the testimonials lament the fact that it has to be "refilled" every 30 to 45 minutes. That bit about "activating" something is just marketing hype.

If it was not for evaporation, the cool water you put on it would be HOT in about 5 minutes just from your body alone, never mind the 100 degrees on the outside too.

The inside is dry to keep the water off your body. The outside can not be "dry" or it wouldn't work. :tup:

Just speaking from experience. You roll it out with a towel and it is pretty much dry to the touch. I did stay cool for over 5 hours though.