biek sputtering in the cold weather (non GZ)

[dannylightning]

so its about 40 degrees out today and i went out riding. when i gave it just a little throttle it would sputter like it was not getting any gas or something. if i gave it more throttle it did not sputter. every time i went to ease on the throttle after slowing down or gear change i got sputtering but only if i eased on the throttle. i think i heard a clicking sound come from the engine once or twice when it did that.

im thinking the bike does not like the cold but not really sure what the deal is.. never had this problem before. it was a 30-40 min ride each way so the bike was warmed up. when the weather was nice i never had that problem. any one have any similar problems

[Water Warrior 2]

Next time that happens try giving it a little choke. Even when warmed up it might indicate a too lean mixture for cooler temps. This is just a wild a$$ guess but the only thing I can think of right now.

[jonathan180iq]

Poor running in cold weather means that you have a lean mixture. The colder, denser air is making your bike run like this because the proportion of air to gas is no longer in balance. This is why it runs better when you give it gas or, as Water Warrior said, you give it a litlte choke. When you have a lean mixture, it means you aren't getting enough gas and that you need a bigger jet.

If this is only happening while at idle, then you just need to turn up your idle jet a little bit. It didn't sound like you have any problems while at speed, so I'm banking on a very slight richening up of the idle screw. If you were problems at speed, I would enrich the main jet or the needle jet, depending on at what speed you were having the problem.

This should apply to every carburated bike on the planet.

For a little personal persepctive, I thought I had my jetting spot on from earlier in the season. But now that the mornings are getting colder, I've discovered that I'm just a tad rich. In my case, I don't think it's enough of a difference to consider rejetting the carb, but swapping out my main jet is so easy that I have a "winter jet" and a "summer jet". Hopefully, this slightly smaller main jet in the winter will also warrant me slightly better mileage for the season.

[jonathan180iq]

You may also just want to make sure your carbs are clean.

[dannylightning]

no problem at idle,, only while moving and only will giving it slight throttle. when i took it to my mechanic he said he thought it was running slightly rich. it smells a little rich, stinks up the garage quite fast at idle.

[jonathan180iq]

But it was running fine in warmer weather?

[jonathan180iq]

Have you ever changed the jet needle or main jet on the bike in question?
The bike was running totally normal in warm weather, right?

I'm just kind of thinking outloud.
If your jetting was pretty close to where it should be during the warmer months, a little weather change isn't going to effect you that much. If you were running rich for all these months, then the cold weather should have made it better, not worse. You need to run some carb cleaner through there or have someone look at them to see if they are gunked up. You also need to make sure that a vaccum hose hasn't come loose somewhere.

The sputtering and popping; do they happen while coasting to a stop? Or just when starting to take off? I mean, if it's only when you take off, then it DOES sound like you might be rich in the middle... but I just don't see how that could happen if you were running well in warm weather. If it happens while coasting to a stop, you are definately lean.

Are you sure you haven't changed anything regarding the intake or the jets that you just haven't mentioned?
If you ARE suddenly running rich, then check your airbox and make sure that you haven't sucked up a leaf or something, which would restric air flow and make your stock jet setting seem rich.

[mrlmd1]

Didn't you change the pipes on the bike after you got it?

[dannylightning]

its got to be running lean, i stopped bye the mechanic today, he said some times a bike can run rich in the higher rpm's and run lean in the low rpm's if the carb adjustment gets a little out of wack. he said see what happens after you install the new air filter and if it sux bring it on down and thell either adjust the carb or call me up and tell me if its gonna need a jet.

what i have done to the bike so far is took the baffles out of my pipes about a week ago, (ran great till it got cold) and i put a k&n filter in the bike TODAY and took it right back out, just made it run like crap and i lost all my top end torque, I probably do need a jet, I figure if i got to jet the bike than i mid as well go all the way and get real pipes instead of running half ass debaffled pipes

I have not changed any thing else on the bike. its got to be running too lean or too rich, couldent be a bad spark plug could it. not sure what happens when a plug goes bad on only 2 cylinders.

the sputtering and jerking (not popping) only happen when im giving it a slight bit of throttle no matter what, taking off, after a gear change, let off the gas and than give it a little throttle again. seems to idle fine and if i give it gas at idle it seems fine too.

[jonathan180iq]

All of those little changes, like the baffles and stuff, leaned up your mixture just enough that it still ran fine in warm weather but now the colder weather is making it apparent that your overall mixture is not right.

Sounds like you need to just enrich the needle jet. What kind of bike is this? If it's a V-twin, you might want to take it into a shop and have them do that for you, unless you are real familiar with working on bikes. Taking the tops off of your carb can be intimidating for newbies. If it happens to be a vertical Twin or a big fat single, then you can totally do it yourself. Look it up on google. I can't think of a bike that exists that doesn't have at least some type of forum devoted to it with friendly people who can tell you exactly what you need to do.

To answer the question in your own mind once and for all, blip your throttle really fast in neutral. Just a quick flick of the wrist and take the rpms up towards 60% or so your maximum. If the needle "hangs" on its way down and then comes down slowly, you are lean. If the needle rises slowly and then falls below idle before coming back up to rest at its normal position, then you are rich. Again, this little test should apply to any carberated vehicle on the planet.

PS: Anytime you make changes to the intake or exhaust of a carbed engine, you HAVE to adjust the carb jetting if you want to experience beneficial results.

[jonathan180iq]

I just read the part where you had decided to go all the way with pipes and stuff if you are going to have to rejet.

If that stuff is your eventual goal anyway, then "yes", that's a good idea. Might as well knock it all out at once, but getting your jetting just right takes time and patience if you do it yourself. Letting a shop do it would be faster and they could probably guarantee the work, but I wouldn't advise spending lots of money up front. You may find that with proper jetting these little adjustments that you made will be pleasing enough.

Check out the Intruder forums and see what those guys think about the availability of these parts and their ease of installation. They'll have insights into this that we can never offer, as I've never even seen a Volusia up close.

[dannylightning]

All of those little changes, like the baffles and stuff, leaned up your mixture just enough that it still ran fine in warm weather but now the colder weather is making it apparent that your overall mixture is not right.

Sounds like you need to just enrich the needle jet. What kind of bike is this? If it's a V-twin, you might want to take it into a shop and have them do that for you, unless you are real familiar with working on bikes. Taking the tops off of your carb can be intimidating for newbies. If it happens to be a vertical Twin or a big fat single, then you can totally do it yourself. Look it up on google. I can't think of a bike that exists that doesn't have at least some type of forum devoted to it with friendly people who can tell you exactly what you need to do.

To answer the question in your own mind once and for all, blip your throttle really fast in neutral. Just a quick flick of the wrist and take the rpms up towards 60% or so your maximum. If the needle "hangs" on its way down and then comes down slowly, you are lean. If the needle rises slowly and then falls below idle before coming back up to rest at its normal position, then you are rich. Again, this little test should apply to any carberated vehicle on the planet.

PS: Anytime you make changes to the intake or exhaust of a carbed engine, you HAVE to adjust the carb jetting if you want to experience beneficial results.

the bike is a v twin, it only has one carb (not sure how that works), no syncing the carbs and such but crabs are foreign ground to me, looks easy to rejet a carb minus the part about drilling a new hole for the new jet, that scares me,

i dont have a tachometer on my bike, cant do the test. but im going to park the bike for the winter, buying new pipes and a jet kit

as far as other forums the intruder alert caffe is no longer working, not the best place to ask for any thing, no one really seems to reply and the other place specifically for my volusia, well after you sign up it lets the administrator know than you get a email back saying your account is activated, signed up twice and its been about a month. still cant sign on yet..

[dannylightning]

I just read the part where you had decided to go all the way with pipes and stuff if you are going to have to rejet.

If that stuff is your eventual goal anyway, then "yes", that's a good idea. Might as well knock it all out at once, but getting your jetting just right takes time and patience if you do it yourself. Letting a shop do it would be faster and they could probably guarantee the work, but I wouldn't advise spending lots of money up front. You may find that with proper jetting these little adjustments that you made will be pleasing enough.

Check out the Intruder forums and see what those guys think about the availability of these parts and their ease of installation. They'll have insights into this that we can never offer, as I've never even seen a Volusia up close.


what is the forum your talking about???????

they say this is the deal for my bike with new pipes and a K&N filter if you buy a dyno jet, ket kit.

150 or 155 main, 37.5 pilot jet, dyno spring, dyno needle on 3rd notch, mix screw at 2.5 - 3 turns. Adjust idle knob as needed to reach 1100 rpm.

i can still look around and find info some info on the volusia riders forum but not sign in and ask any thing

[jonathan180iq]

There has to be another forum somewhere...

...I can't really be of much help on the carb thing as I have no experience with that particular bike, but there shouldn't be any drilling involved. If you want it done right, just buy some new jets. Main jets might run you $5 a piece and a needle jet can "usually" be raised with a washer or two under the needle; it depends on the type of carb that's in there.

The only drilling that I've ever done on a carb lasted about 1/2 a second. On my Ninja I had to drill out the cover for the idle mixrture screw. All you have to do is get the drill bit just to break the surface and then the cover pulls out. It's just one of those things that the EPA requires so people don't go messing with their carbs... :) They're on most bikes. But as far as what you were saying, don't go the cheap rout by drilling your own jets. You'll never know what setting you are at and most of the time those guys that drill out jets are running way too rich.

Do some more research on this. Carbs look complicated by they are pretty simple once you figure out their main operations.

[dannylightning]

There has to be another forum somewhere...

...I can't really be of much help on the carb thing as I have no experience with that particular bike, but there shouldn't be any drilling involved. If you want it done right, just buy some new jets. Main jets might run you $5 a piece and a needle jet can "usually" be raised with a washer or two under the needle; it depends on the type of carb that's in there.

The only drilling that I've ever done on a carb lasted about 1/2 a second. On my Ninja I had to drill out the cover for the idle mixrture screw. All you have to do is get the drill bit just to break the surface and then the cover pulls out. It's just one of those things that the EPA requires so people don't go messing with their carbs... :) They're on most bikes. But as far as what you were saying, don't go the cheap rout by drilling your own jets. You'll never know what setting you are at and most of the time those guys that drill out jets are running way too rich.

Do some more research on this. Carbs look complicated by they are pretty simple once you figure out their main operations.

the jet kits for this bike come with a drill bit guess you need to drill a new hole that the new jet screws in to, i just looked up the directions, i misunderstood the drill bit is to drill out the cover on the fuel mixture screw i thought you had to drill a new hole to screw the new jet into the carb.. for 60 bucks this is what you get in the kit.

jets
1 Main Jet DJ126
1 Main Jet DJ128
1 Main Jet DJ130
1 Main Jet DJ132
1 Main Jet DJ150
1 Main Jet DJ155
1 Main Jet DJ160
parts
1 Fuel Needle DNO712
1 E-Clips DE0001
1 Adjusting Washer DW0001
1 Slide Spring DSP026
1 Needle Spring DSP77
1 Plug Drill DD #5/32
1 Screw DS0001

i hear the needle that comes in this kit will make the bike more responsive than the stock needle and this is the best kit out there for the volusia,

[jonathan180iq]

For $60, that sounds like a pretty good kit.
See if you can find a how-to for your bike. It will give you a chance to learn more about the carb and it will save you some money. If you can follow directions carefully, this is totally something you can handle.

Use other's reccomendation for getting your jetting close, but to get spot-on-perfect will take some trial and error and you'll probably wind up changing jets several times. Most people, when gettig into this, go ahead and replace the air box with a pod filter like a K&N or something. It makes getting at the carb much easier in the future, in case you ever have to adjust anything again.

[dannylightning]

For $60, that sounds like a pretty good kit. go ahead and replace the air box with a pod filter like a K&N or something. It makes getting at the carb much easier in the future, in case you ever have to adjust anything again.

the carb is on the top right between the heads, got to take off the gas tank to get to it. you can barley even see the thing in there when you look for it. it's jammed way up there. dont think i can really put one of those filters on there the way its set up. so im hoping to get it right the first time lol..

i looked at the thread on here for carb mods like the needle shim and all that, looks easy. probably not much different on my bike i wouldent think..

[mrlmd1]

You could also maybe put it back together the way it was originally and use it that way 'till you get all the parts and knowledge to fix it the way you want. without doing any further damage to it or getting stuck somewhere because it won't run right in the cold.

[dannylightning]

You could also maybe put it back together the way it was originally and use it that way 'till you get all the parts and knowledge to fix it the way you want. without doing any further damage to it or getting stuck somewhere because it won't run right in the cold.

once you pull those baffles out of the pipes you cant put them back the way they were, i just need a new set of pipes and a jet kit. just got to decide on witch of the 2 pipes to buy. vance and hines crusiers or cobra street rods.

[Water Warrior 2]

Danny, check out Motorcycle-Journal Forum. Lots of good info and rider/owner experience. Intruder Alert is also a great forum. Having met the forum owner personally I would say he a great guy and lives on 2 wheels.

[dannylightning]

Danny, check out Motorcycle-Journal Forum. Lots of good info and rider/owner experience. Intruder Alert is also a great forum. Having met the forum owner personally I would say he a great guy and lives on 2 wheels.

intruder alert has been down for a few days now. ill check out that other forum. thanks

[dannylightning]

well i just ordered a new set of pipes and a jet kit for my bike. hopefully it takes care of the problem. too bad they wont be in till next week some time.

[dannylightning]

Danny, check out Motorcycle-Journal Forum. Lots of good info and rider/owner experience. Intruder Alert is also a great forum. Having met the forum owner personally I would say he a great guy and lives on 2 wheels.

thank you for telling me about the motorcycle journal site i just got detailed directions with pictures on how to install the jet kit, looks like there is nothing to it. well except the little o ring they said is hard to get back in place

hopefully i wont have to ask any more non gz questions on here now that i found what seems like a good forum.

thanks every one..

[jonathan180iq]

Post back to let us know how it went.

[dannylightning]

Post back to let us know how it went.

ill do that, parts probably wont be in till next week some time, hopefully the weather wont be too cold by than to get out and ride the bike after i get it all done.

[Water Warrior 2]

Danny, check out Motorcycle-Journal Forum. Lots of good info and rider/owner experience. Intruder Alert is also a great forum. Having met the forum owner personally I would say he a great guy and lives on 2 wheels.

thank you for telling me about the motorcycle journal site i just got detailed directions with pictures on how to install the jet kit, looks like there is nothing to it. well except the little o ring they said is hard to get back in place

hopefully i wont have to ask any more non gz questions on here now that i found what seems like a good forum.

thanks every one..


Always glad to help. I did join that forum and had a bunch of questions about Lynda's "M". The info was almost overwhelming and helped to find a lot of stuff I would never track down on my own. Now we just have to get Alan and his Liner over there too.

[dannylightning]

Always glad to help. I did join that forum and had a bunch of questions about Lynda's "M". The info was almost overwhelming and helped to find a lot of stuff I would never track down on my own. Now we just have to get Alan and his Liner over there too.[/quote]

i happed to run into easy rider over there also, pretty soon well all be there lol.

i was looking at one of those strats today not to buy or any thing just checking out the crazy monster pipes on that thing.

[alantf]

probably wont be in till next week some time, hopefully the weather wont be too cold by than

Seems strange to hear that. September/October is our hottest time of the year :)

[dannylightning]

probably wont be in till next week some time, hopefully the weather wont be too cold by than

Seems strange to hear that. September/October is our hottest time of the year :)

august and September are the hot months here, if you consider 85-90 hot. some times it get up to 100 but not often. in october it starts to cool down, by the end of October its usually getting nice and chilly. november quite chilly, December, January, and February and even part of march you can see lows well below 0 and your lucky if you get a high in the low 30's end of march or early april it starts to get nice out again.

[dannylightning]

Well i installed my new cobra pipes and i installed my jet kit, than i put in my K&N air filter and started it up, would not start, i pulled the one side of the carb back apart and sure enough i forgot to put this tiny little o ring back on. I stuck that back on, put the gas tank back on. fired it up a few times, as soon as the carb filled back up with gas it purred like a kitten.

it speeds up a bit faster (nothing incredible but very noticeable) what i did notice was that i was doing 40mph in first gear, I usually only get up to 20 or 25 and shift, 30mph is usually pushing it in first gear now 40mph is kind of pushing it in 1st gear.

it sounds good and looks good and i gained some performance. no complaints except that its raining and i had to take my bike out in the rain to test it out. :cry:

installing a jet kit is easy if you get good directions with pictures, or if you already know what your doing lol. just double and tipple check you have put every thing back together the way it came out. installing a main or pilot jet is cake but when putting in a new needle there are a bunch of little springs and washers, there is also a tiny o ring and a diaphragm that must be put back and properly seated before it goes back together, still easy just got to make sure all the little things in the right order and stuck back in properly.

but from what i can tell my problem is fixed.

[jonathan180iq]

Good to hear.

[dannylightning]

Good to hear.

thanks, its a 40 degree night again and i just rode home from my friends house, it ran perfect but i froze my butt off. no gloves or nothing. glad it just needed a new jet and was nothing serious. figured as much buy you never know.

[Water Warrior 2]

Sounds like some one needs to buy some cold weather gear.

[dannylightning]

Sounds like some one needs to buy some cold weather gear.

well i have bib overall snow pants, a full face helmet and stuff like that to keep me warm but....

i ended up staying out at my friends playing video games till about 1am. only planned on going over there helping them move the counch and going home. by that time it was damn cold.

[jonathan180iq]

Layers are good but the most important thing is to get something that is wind resistant on top of all that other stuff. I've been trying for years to find gloves that will actually keep my hands warm in the winter. It's usually less than 5 minutes before my fingers feel like they are near frostbite. (they're not, of course, but they hurt pretty bad.)

I'll be adding wind flaps over the entire control area this year. They will be part of the bike so no matter what gloves I have I should toasty warm.

Just make sure you find something that won't let the wind cut right through. I've had on 4 hoodies before and it made absolutely no difference because it can't keep 50 mph wind out.

[dannylightning]

i have a icon strong arm motorcycle jacket, its pretty good with the wind, still get some going up the sleeves tho, if i wear that with my bib snow pants, some underarmour cold gear, full face helmet and a underarmour hoodie plus i got a face and neck mask that makes me look like a robber or something but it seems to work well so far,

haven't been out in much less than 40 degree weather yet but it kept me freezing, much below 40 and i'm probably not going to be out riding any ways. gloves do seem to be a problem, probably got to get some expensive snowboard or snowmobile gloves.

[Easy Rider]

Just make sure you find something that won't let the wind cut right through. I've had on 4 hoodies before and it made absolutely no difference because it can't keep 50 mph wind out.

:plus1:

Anybody know where to get a 1 piece showmobile suit anymore ?? I found that to be a good starting point......but I "outgrew" mine! :roll:

I've been thinking of getting my rain suit out to see how it would do in the wind protection area. I would think it would serve well.

[bonehead]

Just make sure you find something that won't let the wind cut right through. I've had on 4 hoodies before and it made absolutely no difference because it can't keep 50 mph wind out.

:plus1:

Anybody know where to get a 1 piece showmobile suit anymore ?? I found that to be a good starting point......but I "outgrew" mine! :roll:

I've been thinking of getting my rain suit out to see how it would do in the wind protection area. I would think it would serve well.
Goodwill? Ski shops? I actually used a pair of ski pants last year on the couple of cold days we had here, worked out really well.

[mrlmd1]

The rain suit should work well, as long as you block out the wind you're removing the wind-chill factor removing heat from your body.
You have to avoid getting sweaty inside.

[Easy Rider]

You have to avoid getting sweaty inside.

Yea, it is a pretty fine line.

There aren't too many "ski shops" in the "mountains" of Illinois !! :crackup

Probably a better idea than it sounds at first; might be one near here that I never knew about.
A search is in order, I think.

[bonehead]

You have to avoid getting sweaty inside.

Yea, it is a pretty fine line.

There aren't too many "ski shops" in the "mountains" of Illinois !! :crackup

Probably a better idea than it sounds at first; might be one near here that I never knew about.
A search is in order, I think.
Don't you all ride snowmobiles up there? Certainly theres a shop around somewhere?

[Water Warrior 2]

The rain suit should work well, as long as you block out the wind you're removing the wind-chill factor removing heat from your body.
You have to avoid getting sweaty inside.


Works well for me. I got tired of the zip in rain liners in riding gear, too much of a bother and too much sweating/clammy feeling. A turtle neck T-shirt also works wonders. Rain gear on and jacket vents open will allow air circulation without a chill. You have to experiment with different configurations for different weather conditions. Going to seriously consider a bala clava from a ski shop to prevent forehead freeze even though I have a full face helmet. Wind chill is a dangerous factor that many riders dance with, been there done that and it really hurts the older you get. The proper gear and body temp makes for a comfy ride. If not then there is always the CAGE.

[Easy Rider]

Don't you all ride snowmobiles up there? Certainly theres a shop around somewhere?

Yes, some. Not as much as farther north......like Wisconsin and Minnestoa but some.

I would have thought it would be easy.....but it isn't turning out that way. Maybe the one-piece suits are "out of fashion" at the moment.

[mrlmd1]

There's no armor in those suits, don't forget. You can get an armored one piece riding suit if you want to spend like $400-$800. Better off with some kind of windbreaker over the bike jacket, and being in layers, with snowmobile or leather pants to break the wind over your legs. No matter what you do, you're going to be in multiple layers.
Turtlenecks or a scarf in the neck of the jacket to keep the wind out of the helmet helps too. You lose a lot of heat from your head.
And don't forget the protective effect of a good windshield, especially one that covers the grips.

Haven't we had this same discussion on here multiple times before? :??:

[dannylightning]

.

Haven't we had this same discussion on here multiple times before? :??:

probably but it gives up something to talk about ..

that 800 dolors suit better be temperature controlled or something, and have a air conditioner in it incaes you star to get hot. good lord thats a lot of money.

i got armor in my coat. keeping the wind out of your helmet is definately something i need to do, havent wore my face mask and my helmet at the same time yet. think that will do the trick tho.

bone head!!
people with lots of money that live on the lakes have them here them but most people around here cant afford them nor do they have any place to ride them, i personally would not want to take it out on the lakes, some one seems to fall threw every year...

not sure where you get snowmobiles or the gear, but i would imagine they have some super warm gloves and coats and any thing else, ill halve to look in to snowmobile places, im sure there is one around here some place. i know there are some snow board shops, well at least there was last time i lived in ohio.

[dannylightning]

Just make sure you find something that won't let the wind cut right through. I've had on 4 hoodies before and it made absolutely no difference because it can't keep 50 mph wind out.

:plus1:

Anybody know where to get a 1 piece showmobile suit anymore ?? I found that to be a good starting point......but I "outgrew" mine! :roll:

I've been thinking of getting my rain suit out to see how it would do in the wind protection area. I would think it would serve well.

depends on the meterial of your rain suit, mine is made of ruber like material, it blocks wind well but it still gets really cold since it's not cloth,

look on ebay for a once pice suit. they got it all. bass pro shop or some place like that usually has all kinds of gear for super cold weather..

[Water Warrior 2]

[quote="dannylightning"][quote="Easy Rider"][quote="jonathan180iq"]


depends on the meterial of your rain suit, mine is made of ruber like material, it blocks wind well but it still gets really cold since it's not cloth,

But it will not be against your skin, normal riding gear will provide a layer of protection from the cold rainsuit material.

[Water Warrior 2]

A snow mobile suit would work probably and you can get strap-on armor to go directly on your limbs and back. Some of it is pretty well made and won't have near the chance of moving in case of a mishap. Just another option to consider.

[dannylightning]

you can get strap-on armor .

like foot ball shoulder pads or something???

[dannylightning]

i wonder how warm these are brand new (non ebay) they sell for 45 bucks, i looked them up
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Arctiva-Comp-RR-4-Snowmobile-Gloves-Red-Large_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem439a6fcf79QQitemZ 290353827705QQptZApparelQ5fMerchandise
these are the kind of gloves you would love to have for riding, if they actually kept you warm

[Water Warrior 2]

you can get strap-on armor .

like foot ball shoulder pads or something???


Do a check at New Enough and other major riding gear online shops. You will see quite a variety of gear with approved armor for motorcycle riding and crashing. Also check with WebBikeWorld.com for some good evaluations of riding armor and winter wear. They(the writers)are all riders and test all the stuff they have written about. A while back they did a very good article on many winter gloves and had a surprise ending with a pair of glove that didn't break the bank. Looking is free and you may find just what you need.

[Water Warrior 2]

i wonder how warm these are brand new (non ebay) they sell for 45 bucks, i looked them up
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Arctiva-Comp-RR-4-Snowmobile-Gloves-Red-Large_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem439a6fcf79QQitemZ 290353827705QQptZApparelQ5fMerchandise
these are the kind of gloves you would love to have for riding, if they actually kept you warm


Would probably be okay but not the greatest for dexterity when using handle bar controls. There are fewer controls on a snow machine.

[dannylightning]

mxmegastore.com

this place has lots of good gear for the cold

[alantf]

I had a problem with ski gloves. While they were the warmest gloves I've ever had, they were designed for holding ski poles, so when you tried to open you hand to use the brake/clutch, they were too stiff.

[Water Warrior 2]

What I wear most of the year are Red Wing leather gauntlets with a 40 gram thinsulate lining. Very soft pliable leather that didn't need much of a break-in period. Seem to be very water proof too for some reason. Must be some kind of WP treatment that has worked well since 2006 when I bought them AFTER getting real wet and cold. Bought my rain suit the same trip AFTER I got real wet and cold. Riding is a learning experience that requires a lot of thought to be properly equiped for all types of weather.

[jonathan180iq]

I'm working on making some windblocks, much like the mud blockers that you find on moto cross bikes. Some nice fluffy warm gloves behind a pair of wind blocks should be pretty nice on those cold mornings.

[dannylightning]

I had a problem with ski gloves. While they were the warmest gloves I've ever had, they were designed for holding ski poles, so when you tried to open you hand to use the brake/clutch, they were too stiff.

i think im gonna try a pair of these, winter motocross gloves.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FLY-RACING-SWITCH-SNOW-X-COLD-WEATHER-GLOVE-SM_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3a53beaef0QQitemZ250 513108720QQptZApparelQ5fMerchandise

[dannylightning]

What I wear most of the year are Red Wing leather gauntlets with a 40 gram thinsulate lining. Very soft pliable leather that didn't need much of a break-in period. Seem to be very water proof too for some reason. Must be some kind of WP treatment that has worked well since 2006 when I bought them AFTER getting real wet and cold. Bought my rain suit the same trip AFTER I got real wet and cold. Riding is a learning experience that requires a lot of thought to be properly equiped for all types of weather.

i drove a little tractor around the air port for a while, when it was cold and it rained hard there was no stopping it. even with my rain suit with the hood on. some how i would always end up getting wet, at least a little wet and that was not fun at all when it was around 30 degreese out. rode my motorcycle in that rain suit once too and it was quite chilly that morning, watter got all down the front of my shirt. i think the only thing that will really might save you is a windsheild and i have my suspicions about how well those actually work. for now if its going to rain the bike stays at home.

my dad said he has 2 one pice snowmobile suits i can use, he said there extremely warm and you'll sweat your butt off when its extremely cold if you don't open the vents on them, im gonna halve to try those out. im thinking that suit and a pair of those fly gloves in the link above might do the trick. ill find out here soon cus the cold weather is definitely starting and it's only going to get worse from here on out

[mrlmd1]

See if you can find gloves with gauntlets - that keeps the wind from going up your sleeves.

[dannylightning]

See if you can find gloves with gauntlets - that keeps the wind from going up your sleeves.

i was thinking about that, i decided to go shopping, stoped at 2 big huge motorcycle dealers, none of them had gloves for winter, stopped at the harley shop next door the the second dealer i went to. picked up some harley gloves that have gore-tex that stuff is completely waterproof and virtually wind proof, just went out riding its 44 out side today, and i was nice and warm except for my legs got a bit chilly with out my snow pants.

i got a new facemask thing, this one has a big old flece thing that completely covers you neck. no cold air getting in to my full face helmet, last time i went out in these temps my face was freezing. that thing helps big time.

[dannylightning]

this clothing set up seems to be working quite well, while out on this last ride the temp sign said it was 43 degrees. and i was not cold at all.

layer 1 (well of course underwear and socks but well skip that)
underarmour cold gear long underwear type pants and matching long sleeve underarmour cold gear shirt

layer 2

t shirt, blue jeans,

layer 3, underarmour cold gear hooded sweat shirt, harley boots that come halfway up my legs, seirus thick-n-thin head liner(face and neck mask)

layer 4 , full face helmet, my motorcycle jacket, snow pant bib overall, harley gore-tex winter gloves(as of so far they block out wind 100%),

i will be testing this tonight on the short freeway ride to the bar (no i wont be drinking) just go hang out with my friends, watch my tv show and drink soda, the low should be down to 37 degrees tonight. so that should put it to a good test.

wish me luck on not freezing.

[Water Warrior 2]

SOCKS, what kind of socks................. :lol: I wear Merino wool socks and they are the bomb. No itching and fit very well. Not cheap but well worth the $$. And your feet won't get all stinky on a long ride either, even on the hottest of days. Hot or cool out there my feet are happy.

[dannylightning]

the current temperature is 36 degrees, it was a 20 min ride home, most of witch was on the highway going about 65mph. my feet got a little bit cold but nothing to complain about (regular socks). besides that i felt absolutely no discomfort form the cold and i was completely comfortable on my ride home.

I'm a person who has never appreciated the cold, i shake like a leaf in cold weather, on top of that i just spend 3 years of my life with virtually no winter, 2 years in phoenix az and a year in memphis tn where most of the winter would be around 40-50 degrees and it only gets really cold for about a month, if that.

so im gonna say this set up works quite well, not sure how it would hold up when the temp drops into the 20's but weather in the 30's no problem,