I have 2 problems (or 3)

[mrlmd1]

How do I add a smiley to a post? I have a Mac and if I try and drag one over I get a web link like this posting.php?mode=post&f=16# (http://www.gz250bike.com/forum/posting.php?mode=post&f=16#)
rather than the picture of the smiley. It must be me, that I don't know how to add it correctly.

Secondly, when I reply to a previous post to add my 0.02, if I try and copy and paste a previous quote or hit the "quote" box in the upper right corner, I get the printed quote in my reply, but not the box containing the previous author's name, etc. What am I doing wrong?

Another problem (not really) is that this forum is addicting. There are many of us who keep checking it a few times a day to see what's happening and are very involved in seeing what's going on and talking to and helping other members on here, who have all become a new close circle of friends. Too bad we all can't get together and meet somewhere and just have a big party. Like going to summer camp for a week or two.

[Dupo]

Adding a smiley is as simple as clicking on it and the forum 'auto-adds' the code for it. Or you can just type in the shortcut for it.
:twisted: :biggrin: :skull:
:cool: :skeptical: :roll: :) :tongue:
:shocked: :neener: O_o :whistle:
:rawk: :2tup: :lol: :cry: :??:
:retard: :crackup :crazy: :haha2:
:blush: :yawn: :cuss: :puke: :drool:
:mad: :yes: :curse: :yawn: :bow: ;)
:tup: :tdown: :sad: :oops: :plus1:
:jawdrop: :redflip: :smallrawk:
:bong: :wow: :fu: :bang: :jo:
:pissed: :smoke: :pimpdaddy:
:ride: :crash: :pwhore: :pics:
:crutches: :horse: :haha: :banana:
:chop:

Again, its BBcode that you have to use. The code should 'auto-fill' the name when you click 'quote'. Otherwise you'll have to do it manually.

[quote=persons name textextextextextextext[/quote]

It is addicting isnt it?

oh and btw... :neener:

http://bp0.blogger.com/_2tQfYue9Xqk/Ruy-i1wHUoI/AAAAAAAAABE/-70iprc8pVw/s200/Mac+Sucks.jpg

[mrlmd1]

Again, if I click on a smiley, I get this in my message-- :neener: , not the picture of the smiley. My BBC code is ON in my options. Does this have to do with my computer or is there some other setting I'm missing?

I'm still trying to figure out the quote thing- I don't get the box with the name of the previous author and the quote enclosed, just the typed out quote itself, like "copy and paste".

Any other help would be appreciated.


And that's not nice what you said about the Mac. No crashes, no viruses, no adware/spyware like on your PC. But I'll forgive you, I know it's hard to change, old habits die hard.

[mrlmd1]

The smiley appeared in the posted message but not in my preview or in my written reply when I wrote it out, so guess that works. Now I only have to figure out how to get the message in the box thing with the author's name.
Sorry for the extra message.

[Easy Rider]

The smiley appeared in the posted message but not in my preview or in my written reply
when I wrote it out, so guess that works. Now I only have to figure out how to get the message in the
box thing with the author's name.
Sorry for the extra message.

When the "rest of us" click on the "quote" button, the host automatically puts the quote/end quote symbols IN THE TEXT.
It is, after all, just text symbols that are treated specially by the host BB code. Maybe your browser treats the brackets in
a special way somehow.

P.S. While you are contemplating that, would you mind trying to remember to start a new line occasionally ??
Your messages are coming out 3 screens wide for me! :biggrin:

[mrlmd1]

P.S. While you are contemplating that, would you mind trying to remember to start a new line occasionally ??
Your messages are coming out 3 screens wide for me!

I am not aware of that on my screen. My and all other messages I view are the width of the margins in the boxes and it goes to the next line automatically when I type like any word processing program. Does everyone else have that problem with reading something from me?
I could make my lines shorter if that's the case instead of the computer doing it automatically. Like this wide?

I guess I've figured out the box/quote thing now.

[Easy Rider]

I am not aware of that on my screen.
I could make my lines shorter if that's the case instead of the computer doing it automatically. Like this wide?


Yes, I assumed that everything was line-wrapping on YOUR screen OK.
I can't see anybody intentionally typing a line that is
three times his OWN screen width! :roll:

It may not make any difference as your quote boxes even end up being about 300 characters wide.
And I think this message will be too since I quoted your previous one.

[mrlmd1]

ER-
Your reply to me fills about 40-50% the width of the message box on my screen.
This one now that I am sending I am also typing about half screen width. Can you
read this OK without scrolling over to the sides like you had to do to read my
previous posts?
My quote boxes and the message boxes are about 300 characters wide and I
assumed everyone's was the same.
Can I get feedback from other members about the amount of characters per line
they are able to read, or read from my posts? If it is a problem, I can type shorter
lines like this post.

[music man]

I noticed that it did that to me not long after they started all these upgrades, but now it is not doing it, on my end anyways. So MRLMD1 it is not anything you are doing I don't think.



Later

[Easy Rider]

My quote boxes and the message boxes are about 300 characters wide and I
assumed everyone's was the same.


The message was totally readable that time but the "quote button" is still 2 screens that way >>>

OK, I know that the Mac is VASTLY superior.... :whistle: ....but how do you get ~300 characters
across the screen and still have a font that is big enough to READ ???
I think I have a pretty good flat-screen monitor but I can't come close to doing that.

[mrlmd1]

I don't know what the font size is on my screen but it's larger than the print in my newspaper
and easier to read. Is the font size the problem? Maybe if you can make your font a size or two
smaller you could read my messages without scrolling to the end of the screen.
I'll keep sending them this wide instead of letting the computer use the whole line.

If "The message was totally readable that time but the "quote button" is still 2 screens that way >>>,"
then I am sure either your font size is too big or you should adjust your monitor to a
smaller image if the quote button on the screen is way off out of view on the right.
Is this with everyone's posts you view or just mine? When you log on to this website do all the
message boxes have the quote box way off to the right 2 screens away?

[Easy Rider]

If "The message was totally readable that time but the "quote button" is still 2 screens that way >>>,"
then I am sure either your font size is too big or you should adjust your monitor to a
smaller image if the quote button on the screen is way off out of view on the right.
Is this with everyone's posts you view or just mine? When you log on to this website do all the
message boxes have the quote box way off to the right 2 screens away?

No, it is just yours....or to be more precise, some peoples messages hang over the page by maybe 10%
but yours hang over by 200%. I can't make my font 200% smaller or I can hardly SEE it, much less read it.
To put this into perspective, the first line of my response (starting with No, an ending with 10%) is
about 9 inches long; on a 13 inch wide monitor, it goes about 3/4 the way across.

I can't really measure it but I estimate the message space that your messages create to be about 30 INCHES wide.

Hopefully someone else will chime in for an even better perspective.........or maybe they are all just getting too good
a laugh at seeing me flail around helplessly !! :cry:

[Dupo]

I have NO problems reading anyones posts in this thread. Nothing over runs at ALL

And to answer the original question, after re reading it several times ...... when you click a smiley, it generates a code ... not the actual smiley in your reply box. After you click submit the smiley shows up.

[Magnar Infectus]

I have NO problems reading anyones posts in this thread. Nothing over runs at ALL
Ditto.

It maybe a browser compatibility issue. I use Opera (ver 9.51 currently) in a virtual session of XP SP3, and it all works just fine. If people having issues could post browser and OS versions I can test them. At my desk I've got 2 PCs with multiple browsers each, a near infinate number of Virtual PCs I could setup, a PC laptop, and 7 Macs with various operating systems, and a Macbook. I'm pretty sure I can duplicate what anyone's got... except for Linux. I don't bother with linux.

[Sarris]

Everybodys post on this topic (only) are coming out 3 screen wide for me as well. There is a slide bar at the bottom that goes for miles. Also, the edit button is a mile away after posing as well. What gives? I'm using IE7, maybe it's a setting problem?

[Dupo]

In this topic alone??

Weird.

[Sarris]

Yeah, only this one. Also, when I reply, the reply box is a mile wide as well. But on page two it's normal sized. WTF??

[Magnar Infectus]

I know what part of the problem is. The first code box in in Dupo's first post on page one is 10 bajillion feet wide. That may be part of the issue. I will attempt to duplicate it here:

blah blah blah stuff with words more words etc etc etc

[Magnar Infectus]

Ok that one just fills the screen. Lets try it with more text:

blah blah blah stuff with words more words etc etc etcblah blah blah stuff with words more words etc etc etcblah blah blah stuff with words more words etc etc etc Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.

[Magnar Infectus]

Hmm that one just fills the screen too. Maybe it's the exact content of that code box.
Let's test that:
:twisted: :biggrin: :skull: :cool: :skeptical: :roll: :) :tongue: :shocked: :neener: O_o :whistle: :rawk: :2tup: :lol: :cry: :??: :retard: :crackup :crazy: :haha2: :blush:
:yawn: :cuss: :puke: :drool: :mad: :yes: :curse: :yawn: :bow: ;) :tup: :tdown:
:sad: :oops: :plus1: :jawdrop: :redflip: :smallrawk: :bong: :wow: :fu: :bang: :jo:
:pissed: :smoke: :pimpdaddy: :ride: :crash: :pwhore: :pics: :crutches: :horse: :haha:
:banana: :chop:


*edit that did it. There's something in the text itself.

*edit 2. I put in return to force the ends of the "words"
It won't be 1000000 miles wide now.

[Magnar Infectus]

Let's see...
:twisted: :biggrin: :skull: :cool: :skeptical: :roll: :) :tongue: :shocked: :neener: O_o :whistle: :rawk: :2tup: :lol: :cry: :??: Z :retard: :crackup :crazy: :haha2: :blush: :yawn: :cuss: :puke: :drool: x :mad: :yes: :curse: :yawn: :bow: ;) :tup: :tdown: :sad: :oops: :plus1: c:jawdrop: :redflip: :smallrawk: :bong: :wow: :fu: :bang: :jo: :pissed: m :smoke: :pimpdaddy: :ride: :crash: v :pwhore: :pics: :crutches: :horse: :haha: t:banana: :chop:

*edit. I figured it out. The forum and/or browser thinks :twisted: :biggrin: :skull: :cool: :skeptical: :roll: is one long word. The forum and/or browser won't split words when it "word wraps", so it continues 'till it finds what it thinks is the end of a word. If Dupo goes back and puts a couple returns or letters in the middle of that code box it will word wrap from those points.

[Dupo]

Everything is still normal on my end. No mile wide boxes.

[music man]

Me too. I can't see any difference in any of these posts.

[Dupo]

I found a solution:

Put the :bong: down and step away from the computer.

[Sarris]

Now the damn thing is a mile wide again since Magnar reposted with long text. The reply box is now 1000 miles wide as well. Can you just pass me the :bong:? Maybe then It won't matter. Or maybe I just won't care. Either way it works for me!

:biggrin:

[Easy Rider]

Everybodys post on this topic (only) are coming out 3 screen wide for me as well.
I'm using IE7, maybe it's a setting problem?

Thank you. Me too.
I don't think it is a simple setting, per se, because a browser generally only displays what it is given.
It won't add things that weren't there when it left the host.
In this case, the Mac user is inputting something that makes his messages (and boxes) ~ 300 characters wide.
I don't know what the mechanism is that causes it to "wrap" for some people and not others.

It is not a BIG problem but it IS a significant pain in the butt.

[music man]

I just tried it on Internet Explorer and all the posts are like that (longer than hell) went back and tried it on Firefox again everything is back to normal. try it Dupo and see if you get the same effect.

[mrlmd1]

I'm using Firefox on my Mac, and this thread and the rest of the forum look perfectly fine to me, as does the rest of the web. Do those that have a problem viewing this forum, or my replys on this forum, have it on any other, or on any other web page? Glad to know it's not from me.

[patrick_777]

Code blocks do NOT add any markup to the page. They have to include line breaks in the actual post or else they will put everything in one line. Firefox has a word wrap capability which is why some people's pages look "fine" and others' don't. That's how Magnar's post was able to include the brackets around the BBCode and not actually translating it. His CODE block is one long string of text.

Fyi, I use Firefox on both MS and Mac machines, and use IE tabs to switch between browsers to test pages. Also use Camino and Safari on the Mac for testing purposes only.

[Easy Rider]

Do those that have a problem viewing this forum, or my replys on this forum, have it on any other, or on any other web page?
Glad to know it's not from me.

But it IS from you. YOU set the pattern with the first post and all of the replies now follow the same pattern.
And no, I don't have that problem anywhere else.
Like I said before, a few places run over by maybe 10-15%. I'm pretty sure that is because I don't have my
resolution set for the absolute maximum value.
But the pattern YOU established with the first post runs over by a TON more than 15%.

I think it is because your browser/editor screen wraps your long lines on YOUR screen without sending any new-line
characters to the host. This is a convention that comes along with your Unix based operating system.
I hated it 40 years ago and I still hate it. You may have a toggle available to change that behavior.

It would, I think, be an interesting experiment for you to go to the "test" forum and create a new thread,
being careful to hit "enter/return/newline" every 50 characters or so and see how that looks to us "problem" users!

Other browsers are apparently "smarter" and try to fit everything to one screen. IE, however, is presenting the data
faithfully as it is received; if that is 300 characters in one line, then that is 3 screens wide. I have looked for
an option on this end but can't find one.

Sometimes you actually NEED to see the data EXACTLY as it IS and not manuplated to make it look nice !!

[patrick_777]

Actually, Dupo started it with a long code box in the first page. It wasn't mrlmd1.

[Magnar Infectus]

Exactly what Patrick Said. I changed my "wide" post. It should fit on most everyones screens now. Unless you're viewing this on 640 x 480 or another insanely low resolution. If that's the case I can't help you. :tongue:

[Easy Rider]

Actually, Dupo started it with a long code box in the first page. It wasn't mrlmd1.

No, I'm sorry but he didn't. The problem for me starts with the VERY first post and, until a few minutes ago, carried through the entire thread.....every message, since they were all quoting previous text.

BUT NOW......Page 1 of the thread are the only messages affected. Pages 2 and 3 are now back to "normal". ????? WTF ?? :jo: :cuss:

[patrick_777]

Watch something.

[Easy Rider]

Watch something.

What ??? :??:

[patrick_777]

Check the first page. I just edited Dupo's code box to include line breaks.

[music man]

I tried it on IE again and I didn't get the problem this time???

[patrick_777]

I tried it on IE again and I didn't get the problem this time???

That avatar really IS a live image of your skull, isn't it MM?

[Easy Rider]

Check the first page. I just edited Dupo's code box to include line breaks.

Well I'll be a monkey's uncle. DUPO......STOP THAT !! :skull:

Should have known all along that it was YOUR fault! :neener:

[music man]

Why would you say such a thing. And yes it is, DOH!!!!.

[patrick_777]

Should have believed me the first time I said it.

VICTORY THROUGH KNOWLEDGE!

:biggrin:

[Dupo]

Never seen a forum where you had to line break quotes or code.

Now, why doesnt it affect EVERYONE???

[patrick_777]

Like I said, Firefox looks at the text differently and doesn't differentiate it between a code box or not. It wraps the text no matter what. IE and others will look at the code block and see it ask exactly that.

[music man]

So Patrick you still haven't said why you said that about me. You really hurt my feelin's when you said that. :cry: Hahahahahaha, Not :fu: .


Later

[Dupo]

so what you are saying is, IE sucks balls :banana:

[Sarris]

Goddamit Dupo, I knew it was your fault.

:skull:

[Dupo]

Yea my fault for using a REAL browser that actually displays things correctly.

:tup:

http://images.mylot.com/userImages/images/postphotos/1269001.jpg

[Magnar Infectus]

so what you are saying is, IE sucks balls :banana:

Only for people who don't like getting a crap-ton of spyware and viruses. If you ok with that, you're good to go.

[Dupo]

7 years spyware/virus free and still going strong. :rawk:

Browsers dont let that crap-ton of stuff in, having no/unupdated AV protection does. :2tup:

[Magnar Infectus]

Wait I think I wrote that wrong. I was trying implying that IE stops spyware like a... well a thing that's not very good at stopping spyware (I couldn't think of a witty metaphor. I fail). However Opera (what I use) stops probably 95% of spyware cause noone writes anything that exploits it. I verify that is stops most things by having updated anti-virus/spyware.

*edited for content

[mrlmd1]

Alright - here's another post from me on my Mac. w/ Firefox. Now tell me, especially ER, if it's from me or not and if anyone else is still having a problem.
And had this problem only been on this thread, or on others where I have posts?

[Easy Rider]

Alright - here's another post from me on my Mac. w/ Firefox. Now tell me, especially ER, if it's from me or not and if anyone else is still having a problem.
And had this problem only been on this thread, or on others where I have posts?

No, it is NOT you. I thought you would have gotten that already from what Patrick posted.

It was Dupo......but he sure did a good job of "framing" you.

Sorry for the misunderstanding! :cry:

[mrlmd1]

I saw that but I was just checking.
BTW, don't want to change the thread but Macs have no crashes, no adware/spyware, viruses, and all that other crap that PC's have, and no need to run all those other programs in the background (Antivirus, spybot, etc, etc, etc) to keep your computers running clean. I converted 6 years ago, haven't had a single problem since I turned on my Mac Mini on day one. And Firefox and Opera work great, and are fast. Don't want to start a fight, just my $0.01. When you go to upgrade your computer again, check out a Mac.
Meanwhile, I am glad this problem has been corrected and we are all happy again so we can get back to talking about our bikes.

[patrick_777]

I saw that but I was just checking.
BTW, don't want to change the thread but Macs have no crashes, no adware/spyware, viruses, and all that other crap that PC's have, and no need to run all those other programs in the background (Antivirus, spybot, etc, etc, etc) to keep your computers running clean. I converted 6 years ago, haven't had a single problem since I turned on my Mac Mini on day one. And Firefox and Opera work great, and are fast. Don't want to start a fight, just my $0.01. When you go to upgrade your computer again, check out a Mac.
Meanwhile, I am glad this problem has been corrected and we are all happy again so we can get back to talking about our bikes.

SHILL!

[Dupo]

No fights lol. Just poking fun :)

I had a mac once, it made me feel like i was retarded. (Where the fuck is the right click???). I just couldnt operate that thing as hard as i tried. I gave the dam thing away.

Mac's dont get viruses because even the virus hacker guys cant figure out how to use a Mac :neener:

[Easy Rider]

Mac's dont get viruses because even the virus hacker guys cant figure out how to use a Mac :neener:

ZING! :cool:

Beautiful!

[mrlmd1]

Very clever,very funny, really, but a lame excuse. I have nothing to do with Macs business-wise, but I have been astounded by how well it has worked without one flaw in over 5 years and I honestly can't say that about any Windows computer I have ever owned, and I never had to upgrade anything to keep it clean and running. But we are way off topic and that was really funny. :2tup: